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(soft music) - [Karen] I am never alone. Baby A was kicking so hard today and Baby B had the hiccups, twice. I'm trying. I swim every day. Swimming, well swimming is the only relief I have. Nobody talks to us. Nobody asks me, "Do you have names picked out, yet?" "When are you due?" "Can you fit in the seat of an airplane?" "Do twins run in your family?" "Don't let me tell you about my "neighbor who was pregnant with twins." "Did you take drugs?" "You must've taken drugs." "You are going to get so big." Both babies stop moving when I swim.
At times, I feel tired and depressed but when I swim, well, it's just the three of us. And we float. I love them so much already. I had a doctor's appointment today. Both babies were still breech and Baby A has stopped thriving. Eric led me to an office and said, "How about tomorrow?" (soft music) - [Eric] When both babies are breech, those babies will be delivered by Caesarean section.
- [Grandmother] I'd love these pictures in the hospital. That's Dr. Eric! - [Eric] Oh, that's a picture of me in the operating room-- - [Grandmother] He was wonderful, right, exactly. - [Eric] The C surgeon looking at me like, "What is he doing?" - [Karen] And Greg was still smiling. (laughing) - [Woman] Crud all over his face and you in an oxygen mask. I mean, like what, are you supposed to bond? - [Karen] (laughing) I know. - [Grandmother] You know, I see their whole personality in the first day. - [Grandfather] And then there's Greg holding the two twins-- - [Grandmother] And I loved pictures of Greg in the delivery room.
- [Woman] Karen, you look wonderful. Mother and children, this is wonderful. [Woman] You look so young. - [Woman] Look at this. - [Grandfather] Yeah, they haven't changed that much. - [Grandmother] No, they haven't. - [Grandfather] That's the last time they'll probably be that close. - [Grandmother] Oh, no, no, they still kiss each other. They still love each other in between the hits, right. - [Grandmother] Under pressure they kiss. - [Woman] They were so cute. They were so cute. - [Man] Everyone's so happy. - [Karen] We didn't know what we were in store for. - [Man] Even Karen was happy as she was leaving the hospital. (upbeat music) - [Karen] For the past eight months, Greg worked constantly on name lists.
Lots and lots and lots of names lists. To me, it's simple. The one that carries the babies and goes through labor gets to name them. Even with this rule, none of the names seem right. And here, the babies are two days old and we still can't decide. - We were afraid they were going to call them Baby Boy and Baby Girl for a long time. - Well, you know, our theory was-- - 'Cause they couldn't decide on any names. - Our theory was they wouldn't let you out of the hospital without a name. - You only had two kids and you had a lot of names so you couldn't decide.
- Sylvia and Xylia. Xanthy. - Sebastian, Emma, I love all these names. - Cora, I like Cora. - Sophia, yeah, definitely a Greek kind of theme to this. - Okay, Petra. Chloe. Io? Natalie. - That's amazing you could have such a normal word like Natalie next to another word like Io. - Oh, Julian. Oh, I like Julian.
- And on the boys, I like George and as I said, Caleb and Lucas. - Oscar's a fun, fair name. I like Max. - Sebastian, Xenophan, Xenos, Xerxes. - All these ones with the Xs and the... Xenophan, Xerxes, you were teasing, right? - You know, Petra. You know, Petra is a canyon in Jordan. I couldn't see it as a girl's name. - Sophie, I like Sophie.
It's nice. Natalie could've been a Sophie, I think. - I don't think it's that people grow into the name. I think like, you get a universal... I think like, it just connects. I've been in Northern California for a long time and I think a lot about the universe and like, vibes and connection and... So, I think you choose a right name for the kid. - [Karen] We chose Lucas and Natalie. - [Grandfather] Natalie was definitely the prettiest but Lucas is terrific. Particularly, we can call him Luke when he's playing third base for the Cardinals.
(laughs) - [Woman] If you have another kid, you've got to consult this list. - [Karen] I'm never making another one. Okay, if you want. - [Woman] Child? - [Karen] List.