Join Ashley Kennedy for an in-depth discussion in this video Never say no to trying something out, part of Filmmaking Forum: Conversations.
- Hi everyone. In this episode of the Filmmaking Forum Conversations course we're gonna talk about trying things out. And this is another one of those topics that so many editors brought up on their own, and it focuses on the editing collaboration process. Saying yes to directors when they ask you to try out an approach even if everything inside of you is screaming that it won't work. Try it out anyway, and see how it goes. Because as many editors said in this episode, you never know until you try. I hope you enjoy.
- I think that's very important with any creative person is that you can try stuff out. In an open collaboration, it might not work, but it's worth trying because you never know until you physically see two pieces of film cut together, you don't actually know what the emotional response is gonna be. - A lot of times you'll edit something that they want knowing it doesn't work, and then you will work with them and work with them and finally, the end product is kind of like what I knew was gonna work, but you have to go through that journey with them, because, again, it is their baby, it is their film.
- Usually when you start out, or at least for me when I started out, I was like, oh, I got this, I know how to do this, and somebody would be like, let me try this, I'm like, no, that's not gonna work. But as I've learned to just try things first and see how they work, you realize that there's so many other ways of approaching a scene. - But I think the biggest takeaway that I see happen to so many young editors that are coming up, and I made this exact same mistake, is thinking that when you've gone through a scene and you've done your first cut, you're the only person that's seen all the dailies, you know better than anybody else, and people start giving you notes, you're like, well that doesn't work, I already tried it.
I can't do that, no, I tried it, it doesn't work. And you learn that you can't say no. You have to be much more open to ideas when people say, well, the scene's green but make it pink now. Well no, I know that doesn't work. You say, cool, let's try it, let's see what happens. 75, 80% of the time you've probably gone down a road that somebody's asking you to go, you know that it's not going to work, but every once in a while you try it and you're like, oh, that's actually way better than what I did. - And also, I find that trying stuff out is often a lot quicker than talking about it and deconstructing it and intellectualizing the proposed idea.
It's just much quicker to try it out and then look at it and see. - A very common thing is, if I'll give a note to an assistant or somebody else that I'm working on a scene with, and say, well, we should really try a different angle, well, that doesn't work because of the continuity. It's like, just go ahead and give it a try, and even if it doesn't work, just see what you think. They'll try it, and they're like, wow, it's actually way better. But what's happened in that exchange is I have, on a very small level, lost a little bit of trust because they told me, no it doesn't work, but then they figured out that it did, so I've learned to never say, well that doesn't work or I can't do that, even if I'm 99% sure the idea won't work.
I will always say, yes, let's try it, let's see what we can do, and the vast majority of the time the person giving the note will say, yeah, what you did was way better, never mind. But you've gone through the process and you know it. So that, to me, is the biggest learning experience, that ability to have that relationship and have trust and comfort in a room, that's something you have to hone way more than you ever have to hone the ability to cut a scene with Avid or Premiere or whatever it is.
- Advice for novice filmmakers entering the industry
- Finding, enhancing, and tweaking your story
- Experimenting in filmmaking
- Solving problems and troubleshooting your film
- Changing your approach or finding new angles
- Communicating and collaborating on set and in the edit room—and with clients
- Working on different genres of film
- Teaching and mentoring new filmmakers