Join Paul F. Aubin for an in-depth discussion in this video Setting up dependent views, part of Revit: Tips, Tricks, and Troubleshooting.
- A dependent view is a special kind of view. It's essentially a subview of a parent view that depends on, and is linked to, the overall parent view. When you make changes to that parent view they will immediately be reflected in the dependent view, and this includes not only 3D geometry, which you would expect to have that behavior, but it also includes all of the annotation between the parent and the dependent view as well. Now, when folks first get ahold of this feature, they get intrigued by the notion that the dependent view maintains this linkage between the annotation, which is very non-Revit-like.
All of the other views don't behave this way in Revit, the annotation is always independent, so why does the view behave this way? Well it serves a very specific purpose, in the overall project setup. The dependent view feature was designed as a way of managing large floor plans that wouldn't fit on a single drawing sheet. So for example, if we look at the view that I have here on screen, and if I were to go down here and open up a sheet view, and I have one called overall plan, and then drag this Level 1 view onto the sheet and kind of place it, what you can see is it doesn't fit very well.
Now, the rectangular portion on the left-hand side, the west portion, that would fit kind of nicely on the sheet, and so would the east portion over here if we rotated it, so we could probably get away with presenting this on two sheets, but it won't fit very well on one sheet, at least not at the scale that we're at here. So I'm going to delete this view, and I'm going to return to my Level 1, and let's talk about the dependent view feature then. Now, here in level one, I only have model geometry, and some datum elements, but if we go up to level two, it's pretty much the same layout as level one, but what I have done is begun adding some interior partitions here, and I've added a few rooms, and some room tags, and a couple dimensions and so on.
So I've got both kinds of element. I've got some model elements here, and I've got some annotation elements. So let's go ahead and do the dependent view setup here on the second floor, but we could just as easily repeat that setup for each of the other floors. So here's how it works. You right-click the view on Project Browser, and you go to Duplicate View, and then Duplicate as Dependent. Now, when you do that, it will create the new copied view, but it will be indented beneath the original on Project Browser.
I'm going to repeat that a second time. If you're going to use dependent views, you're probably going to want at least two. Now, it really depends on how many matchlines you're going to have in this view structure. So in my case I really only need to cut it into two pieces, my east side and my west side, and so that gives me the two views here. So I'm going to right-click my Level 2 - Dependent 1 and rename it, and instead of Level 2 - Dependent 1, I'll call it Level 2 - West, and do the same for Dependent 2, and call that East.
So I think it's a really good idea to get the names established first, that way you know what you're working on in each side of your floor plan here. Now, if you zoom out a little bit, you'll notice that when you went to dependent views, it actually enabled the crop region. So this is the crop region out here, and it's currently showing the entire view. Alright, so let's start with the west view, because that's by far the easier one to set up in this particular model, because it is rectilinear, and is parallel to the existing crop region.
So all I have to do over here is take the existing crop region and crop it down such that it shows me only the portion of the view that I need to see. Now, if you take a closer look, and I'll zoom in to do this, you take a closer look at this crop region, what you're going to notice is there's actually two crop boundaries. There is the model crop boundary, which is the solid inner edge, and then there's the dashed outer line here, which is actually called the annotation crop.
Now, in order to understand the difference between the two, I'm going to zoom in a little bit closer over here. I'm going to take my model crop, and I'm going to stretch that as close as I can to that vertical wall right down here. And you can see that that's cropping model geometry exactly how you would expect it to. The model geometry ends right there. You see how I'm getting a little piece of the door there? Let's drag that just a touch closer, and see if that works down here. You can see down here that's about as close as I can get to this wall without starting to lose that wall, okay? Now, it is actually possible to edit the crop region and do an irregular shaped crop, so if you want to fine-tune the shape of this to non-rectangular, you can certainly do that.
But let's talk about this other crop region right here. This is the annotation crop region, and here's how it works. Notice that that door tag is still displaying right there. I may not want to see that. Or the dimension string is showing here, or the room tag, a moment ago, when this was stretched out a little bit, like so, you see how the room tag was showing for this room right in here. This annotation crop, if it even touches the annotation, it will hide it.
So the idea is, if you don't want to display that room name in this view, then you make sure that it's outside of the annotation crop, and vice versa. If you want to see it, make sure that the annotation crop is big enough to show it. So you can see right here that Open Office, if I want to see that label, I can stretch that out so that it's big enough to show it. Now you can again fine-tune this stuff to your liking as you move along. Now of course, one way to do that would be to put it on a sheet. So I'm going to come down here and double-click A1-02W - Floor Plans for the sheet here, and then I'll drag my Level 2 -West onto that sheet, and it fits rather nicely.
In fact, I even have some extra room, so if later I decide to show a little bit more of the shared region there, I can easily do that and it will still fit on the sheet. So that takes care of the west side of my building quite nicely. Now let's take a look at the east. Now, the east we're going to have the same basic strategy. We're going to want to take this, and you know, begin adjusting the size of the crop. But here's the trouble. Because it's not oriented at the same orientation as the view, we can only get so far in doing that.
And this view wouldn't really fit very well on the sheet in its current state. But what you can actually do, is with the crop region selected, you can rotate it. So when I choose my rotate command, my building is at a 30-degree orientation. And the tricky thing here is knowing, do I need to rotate 30 degrees, or do I need to rotate -30 degrees? So with the crop region selected, we can click our rotate tool, and rotate it. Now the building geometry is at 30 degrees.
So I'm going to come into this angle field here, and I'm going to type in 30. And what you'll see is that even though we have the crop region selected, it's not actually the crop region that rotates, it's the image within it. In other words, it's a little confusing, but the crop region will always stay parallel to your screen. So Revit just rotates the image within the crop region instead by the 30 degrees, to make it match. So now that I have an orientation that makes a little more sense for this portion of the building, now I can fine-tune the adjustment of these grips here, and crop it in a little bit closer, and once again, I'm going to focus my energy over here, and get as close to this geometry as possible, this shared geometry, and then once again I've got the annotation crop here that I can use to start, you know, making adjustments to any shared annotation on the other side.
Now, I want to see all of this portion, but we actually already were showing these two meeting rooms in the other view, so if you decide to pull it over to this side of the wall, like so maybe, and let's bring it in all the way over here to this inside right here. This is exactly why we have the dependent view feature, because, by making adjustments to these crop regions, you can now decide whether or not you want to see that shared annotation on both sides of the matchline.
So compare that to the west side, they're both showing that Office 2020. Now here's the only challenging part of this. If you take that tag and you move it, and then you go back to east, it's moved here as well. So that's the only downside of this approach, is that they literally share the same annotation. So you're literally thinking of the matchline on both sides of the view, and making the adjustments so that it shows only the shared annotation that you want to see.
And then finally, if I come down here and open up the East sheet, drag this on, it should fit rather nicely, and as we saw before, we have a little bit of extra room, so we could continue to fine-tune things a little bit if we wanted to, to adjust this sheet. Now that's just the second floor. If you want to also have the first floor, and the third floor, and the other floors match what we've done on the second floor, that's actually very easy to do.
All you have to do is right-click Level 2, and choose Apply Dependent Views. In the dialogue that displays, it will list all of your floor plan views. I'm going to select Level 1, and then if I click again on this ET - L3 that'll deselect it, but you have to have at least one selected, so I've got Level 1 selected here, and then I'll click OK. And it will take the dependent view set-up that I've done here on Level 2, and it will apply it to Level 1. Now I will still need to rename each of those, but notice that they will be cropped exactly the same as they were on the other view.
And then you can fine-tune things and, you know, perhaps hide items that you don't want to see, but that gives you the basic set-up. So once you've set up your dependent views and kind of got it all tweaked out the way you want on one floor plan, it's a pretty easy process to copy it to the other floor plans within your project. But using the dependent view feature is how you're going to take your large, sprawling floor plans, and segment them up into matchline sections that you can place on different sheets.
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