Windows Vista Essential Training

Running older software in Vista


Windows Vista Essential Training

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We're over on my laptop now, which is an older system that was upgraded to Windows Vista. It's a great place to look at what happens with old software, because I have plenty of it running on my laptop. Most of the time, your old software when you start it up will work just fine. It works just great under Windows Vista. Sometimes, however, it won't. And so let's take a look at that. The simplest thing is something like say, Quicken. And I'm not going to open up my Quicken here for a second -- you'll actually see what my bank accounts are. I don't really need to share that.
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  1. 27m 37s
    1. Welcome
      4m 42s
    2. Vista's top 10
      7m 1s
    3. Some Windows basics
      15m 54s
  2. 48m 55s
    1. Hardware assessment
      6m 49s
    2. Easy Transfer and the File Transfer wizard
      7m 13s
    3. Installing Windows Vista
      5m 50s
    4. Dealing with drivers
      14m 50s
    5. Running older software in Vista
      9m 59s
    6. Installing software in Vista
      4m 14s
  3. 2h 32m
    1. The Welcome Center
      5m 42s
    2. The Aero desktop
      15m 48s
    3. The new Start menu
      20m 32s
    4. The taskbar
      21m 26s
    5. Gadgets and Sidebar
      15m 55s
    6. The Recycle Bin
      8m 12s
    7. Tweaking visuals for speed and pleasure
      17m 47s
    8. Restoring old Windows items
      8m 15s
    9. Desktop power tips
      15m 59s
    10. Using voice recognition
      14m 38s
    11. Voice recognition options
      8m 26s
  4. 1h 32m
    1. Navigating folders in Vista
      15m 38s
    2. The user folder concept
      6m 25s
    3. Filtering, sorting, and grouping
      8m 14s
    4. Indexed searching
      14m 40s
    5. Setting folder preferences
      16m 7s
    6. Burning to CD/DVD
      13m 4s
    7. The Send To commands
      7m 44s
    8. Windows Explorer tips and tricks
      10m 28s
  5. 1h 41m
    1. The IE 7 tour
      16m 2s
    2. Favorites and History
      8m 45s
    3. RSS
      5m 16s
    4. IE security
      15m 12s
    5. Customizing IE 7
      13m 30s
    6. Windows Mail
      12m 21s
    7. Windows Contacts
      11m 8s
    8. Windows Calendar
      18m 50s
  6. 1h 5m
    1. Windows Media Player 11
      16m 43s
    2. Photo Gallery basics
      15m 28s
    3. Photo Gallery advanced
      12m 4s
    4. Movie Maker
      13m 5s
    5. The Snipping tool
      4m 22s
    6. Games
      3m 26s
  7. 30m 25s
    1. Control Panel home
      5m 39s
    2. System control
      7m 45s
    3. Volume controls
      4m 21s
    4. The new "Add and Remove Programs" feature
      3m 53s
    5. Default programs and AutoPlay
      8m 47s
  8. 28m 33s
    1. Mobility Center
      3m 13s
    2. Projection and Presentation modes
      4m 14s
    3. Power options
      10m 26s
    4. The Sync Center and offline files
      10m 40s
  9. 51m 39s
    1. Connecting to a network: The Network and Sharing Center
      10m 21s
    2. Wireless networking
      7m 37s
    3. Creating and finding shares
      11m 19s
    4. Networking troubleshooting
      11m 44s
    5. Remote Desktop
      3m 48s
    6. Windows Meeting Space
      6m 50s
  10. 1h 5m
    1. Security Center and Windows Firewall
      7m 1s
    2. Windows updates
      7m 36s
    3. Windows Defender
      8m 18s
    4. User access control: Standard vs. Admin accounts
      12m 2s
    5. More on accounts
      6m 59s
    6. Password management
      5m 0s
    7. Parental controls
      12m 27s
    8. File and hard drive encryption
      6m 7s
  11. 25m 42s
    1. Adding local printers
      6m 55s
    2. Adding network printers
      5m 36s
    3. Troubleshooting printers
      2m 40s
    4. Cool printing tips
      7m 31s
    5. XPS and PDFs in Vista
      3m 0s
  12. 39m 29s
    1. Using Help files
      3m 33s
    2. Backup files and drives
      9m 2s
    3. File and full disk restore
      8m 31s
    4. System restore points
      4m 34s
    5. Crashes and hangs
      10m 18s
    6. When Vista won't even boot
      3m 31s
  13. 37s
    1. Goodbye

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In Windows Vista Essential Training , instructor Jeff Van West offers comprehensive guidance through the often-daunting task of upgrading Windows system software. After discussing Vista's many new features and demonstrating the initial installation, Jeff explains how to run older software, customize settings and the desktop, and troubleshoot along the way. The tutorials also cover the ins and outs of taking Vista on the road for portable computing, from setting up security to working with all types of media and optimizing performance. Exercise files accompany the training.

Jeff Van West

Running older software in Vista

We're over on my laptop now, which is an older system that was upgraded to Windows Vista. It's a great place to look at what happens with old software, because I have plenty of it running on my laptop. Most of the time, your old software when you start it up will work just fine. It works just great under Windows Vista. Sometimes, however, it won't. And so let's take a look at that. The simplest thing is something like say, Quicken. And I'm not going to open up my Quicken here for a second -- you'll actually see what my bank accounts are. I don't really need to share that.

But when Quicken first opened up, I had a panic attack. Why? Because it couldn't find any of my banking information and all that happened was it lost its default location for the Quicken data file. And all I had to do to fix it was when I opened up Quicken, I had to go to the File menu and do Close and then Open. And then I navigated into My Documents folder where my Quicken data file was, and Quicken opened up and everything was there and from then on forward every time I opened up Quicken, it was fine.

So don't panic if things don't work out right away, even if it's something important like all your bank statements. The very first thing is just to go and look and see whether the program has lost its default settings. And that happens a lot. Now, some programs just won't work at all. There's no way around it. Let's go to All programs, we'll go to Adobe, and I'm going to go to Acrobat 6. Bam! Oh, this doesn't look good -- Program Compatibility Assistant.

This program has known compatibility issues. Boy, some people have told me I had some issues and they weren't being very nice. And that's what's happening here. Vista is saying, "Hey, I can't deal with this program. It won't run under Vista." Now, you can look for solutions online, you can try and run the program, or you can just cancel and abandon the whole effort. I'll tell you right now that running the program is a risky business in terms of potential crashes. It's not the end of the world, but certainly if I'm going to attempt to run a program that has known compatibility issues, I'm going to save all my work and be prepared for Vista to the crash.

This Windows is not going to come up unless people have actually documented that there's a real problem here. I could check for solutions online. We can go ahead and click. And it says, "No solutions found." Well thanks, that was really helpful. I'm just going to go ahead and cancel. In this case -- you see it says, "For more information, contact Adobe" -- if I go and search on Adobe's website, I'll find out that, in fact, none of the older Adobe programs work with Vista. And even the latest ones are having some issue. So, just know that some software won't run.

Now I'm going to go to the Start menu and I'm going to try Photoshop. And this also is not going to work. It's going to look good for a minute. Scanning for plug-ins, presets, and you may have seen this in the early movie. Now I'm going to show you how to get around it. Maybe even waiting in suspense. I wanted my Photoshop to work, too. Okay, it says, "Could not initialize Photoshop," because the file is locked. Properties commands? Unlock the file? Gosh, what's that all about? Well, we could try -- I could right-click. I'm going to go to Photoshop/ Properties, right.

Here's the Photoshop CS properties/ General. Oh, this is for the shortcut. Oh gosh, now I'm going to have to go Open the file location. There's Photoshop.exe. Let's right-click on Photoshop.exe/Properties. This is real pain, isn't it? What does it mean Locked? Read-only? Hidden? Those aren't checked. Security. I don't have any kind of crazy security on it. There are no previous versions. What's this about a file being locked? Maybe if it was Read-only, but that's not the issue here.

Maybe if I click Advanced, right? No, nothing there. So what's the deal? It's not that the file is locked. It's that by the way the program is set to interact with the operating system, I need to be an administrator and I'm not. So, how am I going to deal with this? I'm going to Cancel. I'm going to right- click on the program. I have two ways. Here's the quick and dirty way. Right-click on Photoshop. To double-click it -- or in this case it's the Start menu, single-click is open.

I could open the file location. That's kind of handy. We'll talk about that in the Start menu movie. But there's also Run as administrator. Now, if I click Run as administrator, I'm going to have to put in the password. (typing.) Here comes Photoshop. Boom! It works. Are you saying I have to do that every single time I want to use Photoshop? No, you don't. And this, by the way, is something else. I've used Photoshop, this old version of CS for years.

Long, long ago I turned off this Welcome screen. I don't want the Welcome screen. Well, what happened? Photoshop lost its settings. When I upgraded, and now that I'm doing this Run as administrator, it's actually booting up and running as if I am a different user. So everything gets messed up when this happens. Even if the settings were kept for my old user profile, now I'm running as an administrator and it's looking at me as if I'm a different user. I'm going to go ahead and close out Photoshop again. We'll go to the Start menu/ Photoshop CS.

We'll go to Properties. Again, this is just the shortcut. I'm going to go to Open file location. Here's the actual Photoshop.exe. This is the real application Photoshop. I'm going to right-click on this one and do Properties. Now one of the tabs -- and I'm going to go ahead and close out some Windows in the background here just so you can see this. This is important. This Adobe Photoshop CS Properties, see the little arrow, this is for the shortcut.

This was just a pointer on my Start menu that actually launched the program. I have to do this on the program. Security. Compatibility. There it is. I have a bunch of options. I can run this program in Compatibility mode. If it's having trouble, check this box and say run it as if I'm Windows XP or I'm Windows 2000, or Windows 95. This can be really handy if you have some really old software like we have some old CD books, books on CD ROM for our kids.

They need to run as if they're Windows 95 or they don't work. But that's not going to help Photoshop as it turns out. The problem is administrator and I need to check this box that's grayed out. In order to do that, Show settings for all users. And again, I'm going to have to type in my password here. Run this program -- see Privilege level -- and that was the issue with Photoshop. It wasn't so much compatibility. It runs under Windows Vista, but it didn't have sufficient privileges to open up.

Run this program as an administrator. And so we'll hit Okay. Let's see if this works. Adobe Photoshop. Oh, man. Well, this time I didn't have to type Run as administrator. I still have to type my password. Now I can go hit Okay. There we go. And now Photoshop opens up and it works. But I still had to put in my password. So how am I going to deal with that? How do I run something as an administrator all the time? There's actually a little tweak you're going to have to do.

And that is, you're going to have to change your user level from a standard user to an administrator which we do down in the movies on user management. Then go to Photoshop. So once you are an administrator, go to Photoshop. Do the same thing about right-click, Properties/ Open file location, right-click on Photoshop/ Properties. And if you're logged in as the administrator with compatibility, this box will be available for you right away and you can check the box.

Then every time you open Photoshop under your user account, it will run as an administrator and it will work. We'll look at that again when we get into the user profiles. I'll bring it up as an example. But know that, that exists. There are some programs, by the way, that no matter what you do, no matter who you are they require access. This is an old weather program I have. I'm just going to click on it and it said, "An unidentified program wants access to your computer." It does this to me every time.

It doesn't matter how I set things up. This is what comes up, and there's no way for me to get around it. I put in my password and the program launches, and it works great giving me weather all over the country. Handy when I'm flying places. So just know that -- and you can see, by the way, just by the way this program looks -- you can see that it's calling really old parts of the operating system. It's actually running automatically in a certain kind of compatibility mode within Windows Vista. Nonetheless, know that these options exist.

If you have a piece of old software that's not working very well, first thing to do is to check its old defaults. The next thing to do is its compatibility, and then the last thing to do is to try and put it as an administrator. And we'll touch on the administrator again when we get down to the administrator movies. If you find these settings of bit daunting, there is a Program Compatibility Wizard that'll guide you through the process. All you need to do there -- actually, the easiest way is to click any Help window, and any of those little help question marks, doesn't matter where -- and in Search, search for Program Compatibility Wizard.

There'll be a live link in the Help that will launch the wizard, and then you can use it to find the program that's a problem and get the Program Compatibility Wizard to help you through this same process.

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