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Douglas Kirkland on Photography: Shooting with an 8x10 Camera

Douglas Kirkland on Photography: Shooting with an 8x10 Camera

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In the Douglas Kirkland on Photography series, well-known photographer Douglas Kirkland explores a variety of real-world photographic scenarios, sharing technique insights and critiquing the results.

This installment is a love letter to the large-format Deardorff view camera, which shoots a negative measuring eight by ten inches. Douglas begins by showcasing a dozen startling and luminescent portraits from his years working in large-format photography, featuring subjects ranging from celebrities such as Nicole Kidman to Australian Aborigines.

Next, Douglas tours the 8x10 large-format camera, showing how to achieve effects such as shallow depth of field and describing the printing potential that such a large negative permits. He then demonstrates a variety of lighting, posing, and styling techniques while photographing both indoors and outdoors at the Kirkland studio in Los Angeles, California.

The course concludes with a critique of the resulting photographs. Douglas also shows how he resized and cropped the image to fit a print campaign.

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Douglas Kirkland
subject
Photography, Cameras + Gear
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Appropriate for all
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40m 19s
released
Aug 19, 2011

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Introduction
Course highlights
00:06The tradition of this camera goes back to the beginnings of photography.
00:10It's an 8x10 Deardorff.
00:13We find that in this large camera it's almost impossible to overexpose a negative.
00:18That may seem extreme, but in other words, put a lot of exposure.
00:21When in doubt overexpose with these big cameras.
00:41But again you see that now I've got a little more fill here and it has softened
00:46these lines quite a bit.
00:46In other words, I would say this is a more successful image immediately than this.
00:52So here are the chromes and negatives and we want to digitize them.
00:55Different ways of doing it, but a simple and quick way that we have worked out
00:59is working with our copy-stand.
01:00What Jeremy is going to do here is photograph these and what we will do is inverse it.
01:08So here we have our image and in Photoshop I come down to the Invert.
01:15Suddenly, now Charlie is one of us.
01:18Watch this. This was Charlie as we got him a minute ago. Here he is now!
01:23Cool! Isn't it?
01:24All the magic we would have never imaged just 20 years ago.
01:30Look at that everybody!
01:31You see, you've got this wonderful detail precise in his eyes.
01:36That is sharp, sharp, sharp.
01:38You have this softness that melts in it.
01:40So it's so fluid and beautiful.
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Welcome
00:00Hi! My name is Douglas Kirkland and I'd like to welcome you to On Photography.
00:05Today, we're going to talk about the use of the 8x10 camera and the very special
00:10qualities you can get with it.
00:11Here's an Ektachrome I did with it and look at the shallow depth of field.
00:15Very, very delicate, a very special element you can get in these images that you
00:20don't get with any other camera.
00:22Here is the great director, Tornatore, and he was at our home and I
00:25photographed him like 15 minutes with that camera, but it just came in
00:29because I really cared about the man and the camera would give me that
00:32special, very special quality.
00:35Now let me show you some other images.
00:37I worked on the film Australia and I worked on a lot of movies, but I wanted
00:42something totally different.
00:43So I decided to use the 8x10 camera there and I used all black and white in this case.
00:48This is an Aboriginal gentleman named David Gulpilil.
00:51Nicole Kidman.
00:53And you know how we did this? All available light.
00:56I'm not using any lights on this.
00:58I occasionally use a weak fill light, but normally just a reflector and you
01:02select the place you will work.
01:04I was very careful, and you make the pictures, you craft the pictures in a
01:08different way than just getting a quick image that you might do with a digital camera.
01:13Here is Hugh Jackman and the definition that we have, the information we have
01:18on this big negative is such that you can blow it up almost endlessly and it
01:23looks totally sharp.
01:25You can come in and see the detail.
01:26Very exciting!
01:28Now this is a completely different look.
01:30I was given a magazine assignment in New York to photograph homeless people.
01:35I was asked by the art director to think of something different and special.
01:39I said this is the time I feel that the 8x10 camera might be appropriate.
01:44It could not be portrayed in a more meaningful way for me.
01:48Now let me show you some other images.
01:50These are a totally different world.
01:52Again, I was working in Italy, in this case, for Vanity Fair Italy, and they
01:58asked me to do a series of these portraits which were portraits, which were fashion
02:02pictures we call them.
02:04These are great actors, Italian actors again.
02:07You select the place.
02:08I was very careful about selecting this place because I watched the light.
02:11I walked around and this again was a selection of the area and it was a nice
02:16window light coming in.
02:18This is in Rome and the way this gentleman was standing there is from a
02:23different space and time.
02:25You can capture that and create that with the 8x10.
02:28You can craft images in a way you can't in any other way.
02:32Now I want to show you something.
02:34Here, this was a series of portraits I did for the Woolrich Company.
02:38They said do whatever you want.
02:40I chose to use the 8x10 camera.
02:43This is a friend of mine, Lauren Greenfield, the great photographer.
02:46Here she is with her son, Noah.
02:47That was one piece of film and that was the picture we used.
02:50I love it because you see the warmth of their connection, their relationship.
02:57And a lot of other images. This is Maxim Ludwig & The Santa Fe Seven is the name
03:01of the group.
03:02I feel this image is quite timeless.
03:05Each one is placed here very carefully, and that is the beauty of it.
03:09You're making a picture.
03:10You're crafting a picture.
03:12You're not grabbing a picture.
03:13I mean just consider.
03:15You're almost like a painter starting a beautiful painting.
03:19There is your canvas.
03:20Your canvas is that camera and what are you going to put within that frame?
03:25Pretty exciting stuff!
03:26It really works.
03:27Now this is very special to me, and this is really what we are going to
03:31talk about today.
03:32It's the 8x10 and photographing hair.
03:36It all began with our housekeeper, Angelica.
03:39Angelica, who has worked with us for 25 or more years, she's like a member of
03:45our family and we are members of her family.
03:48She had hair down to her waist.
03:50She came and said, Douglas, I am going to cut my hair.
03:53I am tired of it.
03:54I said, no, Angelica, you don't do that.
03:56And I said, let me photograph you.
03:58So I photographed her hair this way.
04:00She didn't cut her hair and she kept it, and she understood.
04:03This is a picture I've permanently put up in our hallway, because I love it.
04:06Well, that suggested something more important to me, that maybe this is the
04:10beginning of a series, a series which I would do with the 8x10 camera, getting
04:15the special qualities that I could get with this wonderful camera.
04:21So the first person I thought of was Francesca.
04:24I met her a month or so earlier.
04:26I'd seen her beautiful red hair and I thought this is very special.
04:30I have to find a way to interpret something meaningful with her.
04:36I want to invite you to come along as we work on this series which I feel has
04:41done just what I wanted.
04:43It's very expressive of who I am, and it could only be done with the 8x10 camera.
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Shooting with an 8x10 Camera
Touring the 8x10 camera
00:02We are going to start today talking about film.
00:04Something very special to me. It's been much of my career.
00:07Today digital is very important.
00:10I still shoot film as well as digital.
00:12Probably two-thirds of our work is digital, but a very important other third is film.
00:18This camera, the tradition of this camera, goes back to the beginnings
00:22of photography.
00:23You may remember seeing people put this cloth over their head and
00:28take pictures a century-and-a-half ago? Well, that's what we're going to be doing today.
00:33Why? Because it will give us a very special and quite different image and a very
00:39special area of that is a camera that's been a friend of mine for a long time.
00:43It's an 8x10 Deardorff.
00:47So this is the front end.
00:48This is the lens and what we do is we make it open like that and the aperture is wide open.
00:54It's not stopped down, it's wide open.
00:56You have shutter speeds here on top and you have the aperture.
00:59These are settings that you can adjust focus.
01:03You can change all sorts of things.
01:05You can correct lines if you are shooting architecture.
01:08It's endless what you can do and here is the backend.
01:11This is what we look through when we are preparing the image.
01:15This is horizontally here at the moment but you will see what happens.
01:19I can reverse it, make it into a vertical very easily by just pulling the back off
01:24and putting it on here like that and our holder will go in here.
01:30There is your vertical.
01:31Here is a film holder.
01:34That's the size of the image.
01:36I want you to see how it works.
01:37So when I am putting it into the back of the camera, you know
01:40exactly what's happening.
01:41This is what we call a blank slide and it's very simple.
01:45Here is a sheet of film and what you do in the dark, or it can be a dark room
01:51or a changing bag.
01:52We put it into the holder.
01:54Very simply like this.
01:56Slide it in like that.
01:58Flip that closed.
02:00And what we do is, see that's black.
02:02In the dark, we make sure it's silver because silver indicates it hasn't been exposed.
02:09So normally, what you will see me doing when we are shooting is we will put this
02:13in the camera after everything has been lined up and locked down.
02:18And the last thing I will do before taking the picture will be pull that out
02:20that means the film has been uncovered.
02:22Now I take the picture and I flip the slide so I can see that it's exposed and
02:28slide it back in there again and there we are and get it slot.
02:34Take it out and that's where the picture is and then that is removed either in
02:38the dark room or taken to a lab and they remove it and they develop that piece
02:43of film that becomes your negative or transparency, your original.
02:50So here we are with the sharp Nikkor lens, making a great image.
02:54But you know what we are also going to do?
02:56We are going to work with an older lens that really is more in the tradition,
03:00the early tradition of these cameras.
03:03I have used this camera off and on for more than 40 years, closer to 50 probably,
03:08and in fact, I know it's 50 years.
03:11Here's a lens, it was made in the 40s and it's a Kodak lens and they called
03:18it a 12-inch back then.
03:19Today it's a 300. Same focal length actually, and you can open up this lens
03:24and you can change the aperture, all the same things, but with this lens you
03:28get a different look.
03:30This is crystal sharp.
03:32This is sharp, but not in the same way.
03:34There's a much more of mistiness.
03:36And in addition to that, we are going to put a mist filter on here to just give
03:39it a little other-- that's part of our secret.
03:43But it's all carrying on the traditions of the great photographs from the
03:47previous century and I love that, because it's another way of seeing and showing
03:52the richness of photography.
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Preparing for the shoot
00:01Shooting with the 8x10 requires organization and preparation and these are
00:06some of our pieces.
00:06This is the film, critical. We have one stack of black-and-white here.
00:09The other is color.
00:11We have a light meter, very important.
00:13Why?
00:14Frankly, using this camera, the game changes a little bit because it's big,
00:19it's got long bellows at times, and the exposure is different than you think of it.
00:23We are shooting in the black-and-white with Triax and we shoot Ektachrome 100
00:28with the other film when we want color.
00:30I prefer not shoot color negative because I like to be able to digitize the
00:34images and I find that I can usually digitize chromes easier than I can color negs.
00:39Here is the light meter, a traditional light meter, nothing special.
00:42The interesting thing is the Triax is rated at 320, but you know, I have learned
00:48and this is, I am telling you, a reality.
00:52We find that in this large camera, it's almost impossible to overexpose a negative.
00:57That may seem extreme, but in other words, put a lot of exposure.
01:01When in doubt, over expose with these big cameras.
01:04The larger the camera, the more it seems to soak up light and I've learned that
01:08after working many, many years with it.
01:11So our 320 film, we put an ISO in the meter at 100.
01:16Wow! That sounds extraordinary.
01:19It's one of the keys to getting a nice rich negative.
01:21Some people say why don't you force the negative in development?
01:25Not a good idea, because then what happens is the highlights are bright, but
01:29the shadows are not.
01:31I like to have a very full range negative and that's how we do it, frankly.
01:35So that's part of the process.
01:36Now here is another principal element.
01:39In this kind, it might seem amusing, but the digital camera comes back to it.
01:43You are going to find the digital camera's used a lot in this process.
01:46We didn't leave it behind and it's used is what we call our Polaroid.
01:52At one time they made large Polaroid for this camera, this 8x10 camera, but
01:56unfortunately, it's no longer made.
01:58So we do our quick shots with this just to check the light.
02:02It's not as refined as the final image will be on this, but it gives us a quick
02:06observation of how the lighting is looking.
02:08So total preparation is critical because when I start shooting, I have got to
02:13give my attention to Francheska and this all has to work smoothly.
02:17Everything has to be ready and the way we work, I work with usually two
02:22people helping me.
02:23Why do I use two people?
02:25Basically, one person ready for the front and to help enabling little thing
02:27that we need, touching the lights or something or anything like that, and then
02:31the other person really is loading the film in and I work the front end of the lens.
02:36So I open and close the shutter.
02:38I come back and I look through the lens and by the way, I should have mentioned this.
02:43This will maybe throw you a little bit.
02:46The image comes in here upside down.
02:47Yeah! So I have to visualize the image upside down and one of the keys is come in close.
02:56And by the way, in the tradition of this camera. I mean Richard Avedon used this
03:00very camera, the Deardorff, and my mentor, Irving Penn, used it.
03:05I worked with Irving Penn in New York with the Deardorff.
03:08And people like Sally Mann used a camera similar to this and Jock Sturges,
03:13so many of them.
03:15Sally said an interesting thing to me one time.
03:17She said working with these old cameras is not easy, but I do it.
03:21That's how I do most of my photography.
03:23She said sometimes I miss it, but when I get it, it's really very special.
03:27So that's the excitement of it.
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Shooting outdoors
00:01Douglas: Read the shadow side.
00:05So Francesca, with this strange big camera, it's a strange process. It's very old.
00:14It's even older than I am.
00:16And what we have to do is we will close the shutter here and then I go and we put
00:21film in and then we take the picture.
00:24But you can't move after we focus, okay?
00:27Have you ever been photographed with some camera like that before?
00:29Francesca: No, never.
00:31Douglas: There you are, okay.
00:31So a new experience.
00:33This is something from the 19th century originally, the earliest days
00:37of photography.
00:41Okay.
00:43My team ready?
00:45We are ready for film?
00:46Female speaker: Yeah.
00:47Douglas: Okay.
00:48Just stay there Francesca as you are, please.
00:52Female speaker: Closed?
00:53Douglas: It's closed.
00:54I am going to go...
00:56Okay. Yes, all right, yes, yes, 1-2-3, beautiful!
01:02Wonderful!
01:03Okay. Let's wait a second.
01:06I am going to make a change here.
01:08I have no light right at the moment, so okay. So get the light panel please.
01:15Okay. Now, we're adding light because I want the light to be beautiful on
01:20Francesca's hair first.
01:23I want it to be delicate.
01:24That's good!
01:25Now Francesca, I'm going to go to a horizontal here.
01:29I love your long beautiful neck.
01:33Very nice! The profile there.
01:37Yes, beautiful!
01:39Beautiful! Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful!
01:41You've got all this beautiful mistiness back here.
01:43Okay. Here we go.
01:45Let's go.
01:47Closed.
01:49Yes, beautiful! Wonderful!
01:51Yes, 1-2-3, wonderful!
01:54It's very exciting!
01:55Let me do a quick Polaroid.
01:57Move the camera, please.
02:00This is just to get an idea of what we're doing.
02:04I want you to see it.
02:05Okay.
02:07I shoot wide open with this camera.
02:13Just to give a feel? Yes, beautiful!
02:15Wonderful!
02:17Beautiful! Wow!
02:21This is just a quick reference, and what I'm seeing here is the way the light looks.
02:25We've had-- we started with natural reflectors, but the light changed, as light does,
02:30and so that's when we had to bring in this light panel to light.
02:35And it almost does exactly the same thing. It gives us the control.
02:39I'm going to get a different image, a different shot now.
02:44I love this light here, and we've got it for a little while.
02:46Let's try moving our background light over and we'll use-- we'll ask Francesca
02:54to sit here, where I am.
02:57Okay. So we're changing as the light changes.
03:02So a photographer has to have many sensitivities.
03:05The first obviously is the subject, and this is the beauty of it.
03:09We work-- our heads go into many places.
03:13I often think I'm a different person while I'm taking pictures.
03:16I want to use the older lens, the old Kodak, and we're going to make a
03:19slightly soft misty look.
03:21Female speaker: You got it? Douglas: Uh-huh.
03:24The lens is removed.
03:25Douglas: That's? Miranda: Yeah, that's the swing.
03:27Miranda: You want to show this one or you just want to??
03:28Douglas: Yeah, let's show.
03:29There we are.
03:30We put the aperture wide open again.
03:34This is a different shutter speed, so it will be at a 25th probably.
03:38And? thank you.
03:41You get to know these pieces of equipment like friends.
03:45It's a very funny thing to say, but that's really what it comes down to.
03:51Zander, pull that away, let's see what happens without it.
03:55Okay. Thank you.
03:57It's better that way.
03:59And actually, try something else. Flip it over, make it black, and bring it
04:02over to this section.
04:03I want to see what happens.
04:06That's interesting, very interesting.
04:07Now, let me see the other one.
04:10Keep it that way.
04:11Yeah, thank you.
04:17Okay. All right! Miranda, are you ready?
04:20Miranda: I am ready.
04:20Douglas: Okay, here we go!
04:22Beautiful!
04:24Miranda: Black and white? Douglas: We'll start with color.
04:29Okay. Over here with the camera.
04:34Great! Very good!
04:35Put the other. I'm going to check the focus quickly.
04:39Put the opposite film in, please.
04:44And we're ready.
04:49Yes! Beautiful! Yes!
04:52Beautiful!
04:53I think we've done everything we can do here.
04:55I'd like to go maybe upstairs and do something else.
04:58So I think we've gotten the most out of this light right here.
05:03And what we can do is go upstairs and there's nice skylight.
05:07So take 10 minutes off or so, 15 minutes, it will take us a while to move.
05:12Okay. So we're going to a new location.
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Shooting indoors
00:00So what we've got here is we have the windows at a distance and that gives you
00:05an impression that you are in a huge room, because you will see them out of
00:09focus as just beautiful lights at a distance.
00:13But it kind of suggests you are in a castle in Europe or something, quite
00:17different from the Hollywood Hills.
00:18So that's a sort of thing we look for, and that's part of the mystery of this
00:23that we can produce with this camera.
00:25You won't believe the image we get.
00:34So this is the back of the camera.
00:36Once the shutter is open, I come back and I look through what we call the ground
00:40grass here, and it's all upside down.
00:43That's something you get accustomed to.
00:45You will see the framing.
00:46That is obviously the top of the frame and the bottom.
00:49And you make sure there is nothing in there that shouldn't be, and then you ask
00:52yourself, should I go left or right?
00:54You have all these controls.
00:56You ought to keep it very simple, and this is where it happens, but again, it's
01:00why you have to pre-visualize the image as much as possible.
01:05And the one key is that-- the rule it's often broken by people is they don't get
01:11their camera close enough. [00:01:14.0 7] Be bold with your camera.
01:15come in close, because that's where the great images come from.
01:19Chin down slightly. Chin down slightly.
01:23Yes, yes, yes. Eye into the camera now.
01:27Wonderful! Okay.
01:30Perfect! Okay. Okay.
01:33I'm going to put the mist on here in just a second.
01:35This is a mist filter and it happens to fit the front of this old lens perfectly.
01:41It's a Tiffen.
01:47Same as before. Chin up.
01:50Slight smile.
01:51Okay, come out when you are ready.
01:55That's perfect! Wonderful! Okay.
02:00Female Speaker: It's closed?
02:02Douglas: Yeah, it's closed.
02:03What would be good for us, if you can do it, if you hold your hand across your breast?
02:14Biggest eyes you can give me.
02:16Close your eyes and rest them for a second.
02:17Take a deep breath and then have open eyes right in that lenses.
02:22You are staring strong.
02:24Beautiful!
02:25Wonderful!
02:26Give me a Polaroid please.
02:28Yes, yes, yes, yes.
02:31Okay. That's beautiful!
02:35Okay. You are wonderful!
02:37There we are. Thank you.
02:38We have done that.
02:39Here is the picture.
02:45Yeah, it's wonderful!
02:47Francesca is like a dream.
02:48I have wanted to photograph her, as you know, for some time and what attracted
02:52me first when I saw that hair, six months ago probably, I said, wow, this lady, I
02:57want to get her before my camera, and I especially wanted her before the 8x0,
03:02because I know I can mold and make such wonderful images and it's all part
03:06of the concept of showing hair.
03:09And the other thing that evolved and developed, which I loved, was when I asked
03:13her to take her dress down at the top and just hold-- the purity of her arm across her,
03:19that was nice, and to me this is probably one of the best pictures today,
03:23and so very special.
03:26I love this type of work and working with people.
03:29It's all part of our hair series, and it gets very special with the 8x10.
03:33Wait and see.
03:34Check it out.
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Making selects
00:00Here we are in the next stage of working with the Francesca pictures.
00:06The portrait, I feel, worked very well, emphasis on hair, and working with the 8x10
00:11camera, pretty exciting and very special stuff.
00:14So let's take a look at the film for the first time.
00:16These are the chromes and I have barely seen them.
00:21But let's see what we have in this box.
00:23What surprises do we have and how are we going to deal with it.
00:27Now, I was mentioning earlier, we used a 300 millimeter lens. That's the
00:31normal lens on the 8x10.
00:33It's similar to a 50, if you had a 35 millimeter camera.
00:35In other words, your standard digital camera or 35 millimeter camera, 50 is normal.
00:42In this larger camera, making a piece of film this big, it's 300 millimeter.
00:49And what happens is we have-- with this normal lens, you have a
00:52normal perspective.
00:53In other words, it doesn't look like a long lens or a wide lens. It's a
00:56normal perspective, but you get this wonderful diffusion, because you are on
01:00a 300 millimeter lens.
01:02And this was the Nikkor that we used.
01:04It's a 5.6.
01:06Now, you can see the light in her hair from behind.
01:09You saw us watch and search and find that.
01:11That's part of the energy and the fun of all of this.
01:15You keep searching.
01:16Now, this probably was over here, because the film comes back stacked from the
01:21lab in different ways, but again, you see that now I've got a little more fill
01:25here and it has softened these lines quite a bit.
01:28In other words, I would say this is a more successful image immediately than this.
01:32In fact, I would put this aside as one of the ones that aren't so good.
01:36Now we are cooking.
01:39This is that backlight coming just from behind her, very simple, but it was
01:44seeing what was there and speaking gently with her, because again, don't get
01:50lost in the photography.
01:52Your photography, our photography is obviously what it's all about ultimately
01:56for us, but remember the person out in front has to feel good and feel loved by
02:03your camera and that's nine-tenths of the process, as far as they're concerned
02:07at the time you are photographing.
02:08And now this is interesting.
02:09Okay. Now we're going to the upstairs pictures.
02:13I love this.
02:14You see, this has got the mystery of the hair and again, this is
02:18that diffusion.
02:19I have used the smoke filter on this if you recall, and when you see this
02:23close up, you're going to see that there is a mistiness that you can't get
02:26any other way.
02:28This is one of Douglas Kirkland's little secrets I suppose, but you are going to
02:32be in on it today, but I am showing it all to you exactly like I do it.
02:36I say that because people look at these images and they say, how do you do it?
02:40How have you done it?
02:42What is your trick?
02:43And you say use an 8x10 camera, and they often are confused or baffled because
02:48they don't have any idea what the process is like.
02:51I like these.
02:52These are the more successful ones as far as I'm concerned.
02:56Someone else we shot with the 8x10 was I wanted to g et a guy, a good looking guy, and hair, his hair.
03:02So I met Charlie and we shot mainly in black-and-white.
03:06I love the t-shirt he had there, clean, clean, clean.
03:10Now, that's a picture I really love.
03:13I love this hair falling in front of his face, and what I have here you'll
03:18see me check with a loupe.
03:19I can do this just like we would any 35 millimeter negative.
03:23Yes, he is very, very sharp in the eyes and everything.
03:26And there's a slight movement of his hair, which is what I wanted.
03:29We have a fan blowing it.
03:31So what we will be doing in a short while is you'll see me make a copy of this,
03:36a digital copy.
03:38Now, I am telling you something that is not commonly known. In fact, I've never
03:41talked about this before.
03:43We can photograph it with our digital camera and inverse it so it becomes a
03:47positive rather than negative, like you're seeing, which you're going to watch
03:51us do in a couple of minutes.
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Digitizing negatives
00:00So here are the chromes and negatives and we want to digitize them.
00:04Different ways of doing it, but a simple and quick way that we have worked out
00:08is working with our copy stand, pretty straightforward stuff.
00:12Let me just show you quickly here.
00:14This is simply a lightbox under here and it's daylight quality.
00:18What Jeremy is going to do here is photograph these and put them on the card of
00:23the camera. He is shooting RAWs, and I will put them in my computer, the card.
00:29I will take over the computer, and in Bridge we can-- we have a lot of control
00:34and what we would do is inverse it.
00:38Now, what Jeremy has done, you see how simple and quick that was?
00:41It's so simple, it's amazing.
00:43I have a macro lens, a 50mm macro lens, and this is a standard copy stand,
00:49nothing unique or unusual about that, and what we're doing is digitizing.
00:54Now, again, the beauty of having your work digitized is that you can put it in
00:59your computer and you can modify it and you can do whatever you want with it.
01:03And we do at times make straight contact prints, but normally I prefer this
01:07procedure, because it gives me that extra element of control that we in the
01:12digital age have gotten accustomed to.
01:17There is Charlie and he is going to make a very strong image.
01:20Now, Jeremy is taking a photograph, which he is including the number on
01:27the corner of the frame here, because that will identify this negative
01:32with the file.
01:33So in other words, when I look at them in my computer, I will see that-- There it
01:39is right there. You see the negative? Yeah, there it is right in the corner.
01:48So we will be able to check that out and find it and relate to it.
01:52And again, it's all a continuous process.
01:55So let's go on to the next stage.
01:58Okay. So here we have our image, and you might say this looks like nothing that you
02:06could ever imagine working with but, again, it's an image and you want to make
02:11it fairly light, believe it or not, at this stage.
02:15So I lighten him and I am going to say Open Image.
02:19I have opened it in Photoshop and in Photoshop I come down to the
02:25Inverse control and the reality is-- Invert rather-- and it's a
02:31Command+I as in Inverse.
02:34Okay. Now, there you see, there he is, suddenly he is-- What I am going to do now,
02:40this is an RGB file, so why don't we just make it-- we don't want an RGB. I am
02:44going to make it in Grayscale. Discard Color.
02:47Okay. Good! It's exciting, isn't it?
02:49See, it's magical. It's coming there immediately.
02:52Suddenly now Charlie is one of us, and you see how fast that is.
02:57And watch this. This was Charlie as we got him a minute ago. There he is now.
03:03Cool, isn't it?
03:06The reality is there are different ways of arriving at the same point and you
03:10will have purists who will think I am insane doing this frankly.
03:13But it's my way and I like it.
03:16I feel it's the contemporary approach.
03:18And I am getting the best world of the 8x10 with all this. Look at that glorious shallow
03:23depth of field again.
03:24The man has a different look in his eye, because this camera connects with
03:28people differently and that's why we have images like this.
03:31Wuite strong.
03:32We make huge prints, which we can from this.
03:35We make these 5 feet and higher, and they're clean, crisp, because our digital
03:42camera is an extremely high-end camera in terms of definition.
03:46I feel I have a little more possibility with it digitized and the digitizing
03:52process for me is the simplest one, rather than waiting for the drum scan.
03:56And I've had lots of them made.
03:58I mean, I've had hundreds of them made, and they are good.
04:01But I love having the control, I love being able to do all this in-house, and
04:06it's got my stamp on it, it's me, and that's what I care about.
04:11This is why photography is so radiantly wonderful and exciting.
04:14So here we are. We will make prints in a little while and I will show
04:19you some very large prints of that.
04:21Exciting stuff!
04:22We're going to do that in the next few minutes.
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Making prints
00:00So here's a printer we're going to work with.
00:02It's the HP Z3200.
00:06This is 44 inches wide, a little bigger than a meter.
00:09This has allowed me to enlarge the image very simply.
00:14And frankly, in the earlier days of before digital existed, getting enlargements
00:21wasn't too easy from 8x10, because they weren't that many enlargers that would
00:27accommodate negative that big.
00:29They did exist, but there were rather few and far between and costly and awkward
00:35to move and get around.
00:36In fact, some of them were even motorized to put them up and down,
00:39they were that complex.
00:41Anyway, so much easier.
00:42And there we are, it's starting and we're printing on a paper
00:46that's called MOAB fine art rag paper.
00:50Very high caliber of paper and one of the beautiful things about what we produce
00:56here is well, one of the great experts in the field is Henry Wilhelm.
01:04He is considered the foremost expert in longevity of anything photographic,
01:08whether it's negative or the chrome or whatever or a print.
01:12He maintains the prints from this particular printer they have a life
01:15expectancy of 250 years.
01:18I think it's pretty special and I don't think you or I are going to be around
01:21watch that, but it's cool.
01:24The interesting thing is the caliber of print that we get from this is of
01:28museum quality.
01:30We've just had a very big show in Australia in a big museum and these prints
01:34were everywhere, enormous.
01:36We can make very big prints here.
01:38We can make them to 44 inches wide, just about as long as you would want.
01:42Pretty exciting stuff!
01:43It's another world!
01:44Well, we're waiting for Charlie to print.
01:49I want to show you one of those prints that I'm talking about.
01:51Here's Hugh Jackman.
01:53This was done when he was working on the film Australia in Australia a couple
01:57of years ago.
01:58This is on the fine art paper that I'm talking about and this is done with the
02:028x10 and handled just like you'd watch me with Charlie's picture.
02:08Look at the quality we get!
02:09And this has been in a number of museums.
02:12It's quite glorious and again the shallow depth of field.
02:15You get a look and of intensity that only comes from the 8x10.
02:19You can see here this is the edge of the film.
02:22Here's Charlie coming out right now.
02:24The printer is cutting it.
02:25All the magic we'd never have imagined just 20 years ago.
02:31Look at that everybody!
02:33Wow!
02:34You know what I did?
02:34I made an extra one to give Charlie.
02:37He was a great.
02:40Giving a print means so much to people.
02:43And that's what frequently photographers seem to forget to do.
02:46So what I've done here and I like to do it, especially on the black and white,
02:50is leave the edge of the film.
02:52Purists can see that this is not been modified or had anything done to.
02:57So I want to take a closer look at this Charlie print.
03:02You see we got this wonderful detail precise in his eyes and that is
03:08sharp, sharp, sharp.
03:09But you have this softness that melts in.
03:11It's just so fluid and beautiful!
03:14This is very exciting photography and I could only accomplish that with the 8x10,
03:19as you saw me do it.
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Conclusion
00:00I hope you've enjoyed watching my process as I've worked with the 8x10 camera,
00:04a very special piece of equipment.
00:07And seeing some of the reasons I use it. I love the shallow depth of field or the
00:12focus that's misty in the background.
00:15Nothing quite matches it.
00:16Why does that happen? Mainly because it has such a big piece of film,
00:208x10 inches.
00:21It's about 20x25 centimeters.
00:23It's a big piece of film and the aperture of this lens is not that fast, but it
00:29gives that shallow depth of field, that mistiness, even at f/5,6. That's the
00:33maximum aperture on this lens.
00:35And the people often say to me, if I am doing it, what do I focus on?
00:40It's very simple.
00:41Always the eyes.
00:42Focus on the eyes, you'll never miss.
00:44That's what people really want to see.
00:47The camera has devices like you have on some 35 millimeter type cameras and
00:52medium format swings and tilts.
00:54What do you use this for?
00:55Well, you can extend the focus if you want and in the back you can to swing it
00:59around and you can get correct lines for architecture.
01:03All sorts of possibilities.
01:05It's endless anyway.
01:07I really would encourage you to try this equipment.
01:10But if you don't happen to have an 8x10 available to you, use a 4x5 and
01:14work with that.
01:15You'll be surprised what you can do or a medium format or a 35 because
01:20truthfully, the most important piece of equipment you will ever have is
01:25right here in your head.
01:26Your mind and your eye.
01:28And you only limit yourself by your own creative process and your imagination.
01:33So enjoy it and get the most out of photography, as I do everyday and as I
01:37work and enjoy it.
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About the Author
Meet Douglas Kirkland
00:06I grew up in a small town in Canada, only 7,000 people.
00:11The first picture I ever took was taken with a box camera, a Brownie box camera.
00:16I remember pushing it into my chest.
00:18Ten years of age at the time and pushing that device down, it went clunk.
00:22I got the buzz right then and it's never stopped since.
00:27Speed Graphic was the camera of the time and if you have this in your hand as a
00:34young man, I have to tell you, you really felt you were hot.
00:38Turn it this way or that way, I mean that was a charge like nothing else.
00:45I got a call from Look Magazine. I was basically hired to shoot fashion and I
00:53was the new generation.
00:54I was in my mid-20s.
00:55The year was 1960.
00:58Then my boss in New York called me and he said, we would like you to go to Las
01:02Vegas with our movie editor, because Elizabeth Taylor, who hasn't been
01:06photographed or had a story done on her for about two or three years, now has
01:11said she will give us an interview.
01:12I sat quietly in the back of the room as the journalists interviewed her and I
01:19went up to her at the end and I took her hand and I said, "Elizabeth, I am new
01:25with this magazine," looking her straight in the eyes, just like I am you.
01:30"Could you imagine what it would mean to me if you would give me an opportunity
01:34to photograph you?"
01:35I was holding her hands still, pause.
01:39She probably thought she was never going to be released, and then she said,
01:44"Okay, come tomorrow night at 08:30."
01:47To make a long story short, I did, and I got pictures that ended up really
01:53starting my career of photographing celebrities.
01:56I had a cover of Look Magazine, my first cover, and from then it was like an
02:01explosion of possibilities.
02:04This camera is the one that I actually used to photograph Marilyn Monroe, this
02:08very camera, this 500C.
02:11We went to visit her in her Hollywood home.
02:14It was this camera, myself, Marilyn, a wonderful photo session that went on for
02:19about three or four hours.
02:21I feel a great attachment to this.
02:22I have been very careful to hold on to my images. Ever since that I was always
02:30able to keep my pictures so that's why I have all these books, 15 in all, at
02:35the moment I believe.
02:36I am best known for my work around entertainment and these are work from
02:40the movies.
02:41They are different times, different places.
02:44I have worked on 160 films in all by our last count.
02:50For me one of the most significant and important areas of working with people is
02:55to know your subject, feel sympathetic toward them, you have to feel that I care
03:01about you, and I do.
03:03Boy do I ever!
03:04Because I know that what you have in you is going to make a great image, and
03:09honestly you can have any lens in the world or any type of camera, but if you
03:14don't have a subject who's connecting with you, your chances are
03:17substantially reduced of getting a good image.
03:22I learned from a lot of different sources and resources certainly, and
03:27photography in the early days and later on with computers.
03:30I asked a lot of people lot of questions and I had a lot of wonderful people
03:34help me, and frankly years ago, somebody gave me a lesson that I've really held
03:39on to and I feel this way very strongly.
03:43Do the same for somebody else.
03:46When you receive something good, just pass it along and I hope that you get out
03:51of this something special and I am trying to pass it along to you.
03:55I care about it.
03:56I hope you do. [00:03.58.03]
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