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Resolving Camera Raw mismatches

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Now that we have imported all of our images into Lightroom, we can view those images and access them and process them. What I want to talk about here is how we can edit those inside of Photoshop, and what we can do when we get the Camera RAW profile mismatch. Well, here you can see I have a handful of photos that I captured down in Costa Rica this last summer, and I am going to press the arrow key to scroll through a few of these and here is my daughter, Sophia. I just think that expression is so cute. Let's say that I want to open this image up inside of Photoshop to apply some particular type of effect to the photograph.

Resolving Camera Raw mismatches

Now that we have imported all of our images into Lightroom, we can view those images and access them and process them. What I want to talk about here is how we can edit those inside of Photoshop, and what we can do when we get the Camera RAW profile mismatch. Well, here you can see I have a handful of photos that I captured down in Costa Rica this last summer, and I am going to press the arrow key to scroll through a few of these and here is my daughter, Sophia. I just think that expression is so cute. Let's say that I want to open this image up inside of Photoshop to apply some particular type of effect to the photograph.

Well to do so, I would navigate to my Photo pulldown menu, and we all know this. We go to Edit in. Then we choose Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS5. Or we press Command+E on a Mac--that's Ctrl+E on Windows-- to open it up inside of Photoshop. Yet, when I go to do this, what's going to happen is it's going to give me an error message. Let's read this error message together. It says, "This version of Lightroom may require the Photoshop Camera RAW plug-in version 6.2 for full compatibility." Now the actual specific version isn't really relevant.

That particular version is what's most recent as I'm recording this. But whatever it is for you, if you get this mismatch, what it's telling you is that there's a problem. Now the Camera RAW engine that really runs Lightroom is the same Camera RAW engine that we can find inside of Bridge or Photoshop when RAW processing our files. What this message is telling me is that it needs me to update the Camera RAW plug-in so that I have consistency between Lightroom in Photoshop, and that's really important.

Well, let's say that I ignore this message, what can I do? Well, I can click Cancel. This will just cancel this out, and I won't be able to edit this in Photoshop. Or, I can use Render using Lightroom. Now, this could be a good option. What this will do is it will process the image, all of the Camera RAW processing, using that version of Camera RAW from Lightroom, and then it will pass it off to Photoshop. What will happen if I select Open anyway? Well, what will happen here is that the RAW processing that I see inside of Lightroom won't match the RAW processing that I'll see inside of Photoshop, and the reason is is that there may be some difference between the way that Camera RAW 6.1 works and 6.2 works, or whatever the mismatch is.

So most likely what you're going to want to do is make sure you update the plug-in inside of Photoshop, or worst- case scenario, choose Render using Lightroom. Well here what I am going to do is go ahead and click Cancel because I want to get things synchronized so that this works well. I don't want to kind of patch this problem. I want to get it fixed so that I can have an effective workflow. In order to do that, I need to navigate over to Photoshop, and in Photoshop, you will navigate to your Help pulldown menu and then select Updates.

Now, when it does this, it's going to look for many different types of updates for all of the different Adobe products that you have installed. In this case, it's going to give me a range of updates. Well, I don't want any of these, so I am going to go ahead and check all these off. What I'm looking for is that Camera RAW plug-in, so I am just going to go ahead and make my way down this list. I'm not going to update everything else right now-- just this plug-in--and I'll go ahead and simply click Update. Then this will take me through the entire update process, and once this is complete, what you want to do is close and then re-open the three applications: Lightroom, Bridge, and Photoshop.

Then after you've closed and reopened those applications, what you can do is navigate back to Lightroom, as I've done here. Then, you remember the shortcut, don't you-- to edit an image inside of Photoshop? On Windows, that's Ctrl+E. On Mac, that's Command+E. You can always go to your Photo pulldown menu if you forget the shortcut, choose Photo > Edit in, and then select Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS5. This will then open up this RAW file inside of Photoshop CS5.

Here you can see it's skipping that Mismatch dialog because we no longer have a mismatch. Now once in Photoshop, the sky is the limit. We can do whatever we want. Just to keep things simple, what I am going to do is click on my Adjustment layer icon for converting to black and white, and then maybe I'll dial this in a little bit and have a black-and-white conversion. Next, we need to save the file, and if you've opened a file from Photoshop, all you need to do is choose File > Save or press the respective shortcut, which is, on Windows press Ctrl+S--on Mac, press Command+S. And then you can also close the file once you've saved it. And here I'll press Command+W on a Mac--that's Ctrl+W on Windows--or just go ahead and close the file.

Now, once we've done that, it will then save it inside of our Lightroom Library. Let's go ahead and navigate back to Lightroom. Here you can see it's highlighting that particular image. Here's the one which is now called flamingo_19-Edit. It's a TIF file, and it's a TIF file based on my preferences that I've set up for Lightroom. And then here we have the original file, which is the original RAW file. Now, you may be thinking, "Okay, well that's great, yet let's say that I just work with JPEGs." Well, even if you work with JPEGs--for example, let's go to this Mexico folder-- if we select a JPEG, and go to the Develop module, and if we make a change to this JPEG--here I'll increase the contrast or the clarity, or add a little bit of blacks there so I have a little bit more vivid, more high contrast image-- well what I've done is I've applied RAW adjustments to this JPEG.

So if I were to open this one up inside of Photoshop, well I would also have that Camera RAW mismatch, unless I've updated it. Well, here as you know, we've already updated Camera RAW in both places: in Lightroom and in Photoshop. So what I can do then is navigate to my Photo pulldown menu, choose Edit in, and then I'll choose Edit in Adobe Photoshop CS5. Now JPEGs are a little bit different. We have some options. We can edit a copy of this file with our Lightroom adjustments applied.

We can edit a copy without Lightroom adjustments, without contrast, without the increase of the blacks, or the clarity there. Or we can just edit this original JPEG file. Now, what you choose will really be contingent upon your intent, or what you want to do. Do you want to have another version of a file inside of Lightroom, kind of like we did with that RAW file where we had the DNG and the TIF, or do you just want to work on the JPEG? Well, in this case, what I want to do is edit a copy with some Lightroom adjustments, so I'll click Edit.

Now, the file that we will open up inside of Photoshop will look identical to the file that I worked on in Lightroom, because it applied all of that RAW processing that I did in Lightroom and then it passed the file off to Photoshop. Now here in Photoshop, again, just to really illustrate this, I am going to convert this to black and white. Here I have a black-and-white conversion. I'll save the file--Command+S on a Mac, Ctrl+S on Windows--and then press Command+W on a Mac--Ctrl+ W on Windows--to close it. So we are saving and closing.

Here you can see back in Lightroom, it then has these two files together, and it stacked them together based on my preferences. It sets them right next to each other. I have the original JPEG file, and then I have the file which has been saved as mexico_10-Edit. All right! Well in closing, I hope that the information in this movie has helped you out in regards to knowing how you can deal with that Camera RAW mismatch. I also hope that it has helped you out in regards to looking at how you can integrate your workflow working between Lightroom and Photoshop.

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Lightroom 3 Advanced Techniques

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  1. 5m 57s
    1. Welcome
      2m 11s
    2. Strategies for success
      1m 49s
    3. Using the exercise files
      1m 57s
  2. 39m 0s
    1. Understanding how Lightroom, Bridge, and Photoshop work together
      6m 25s
    2. Working with Lightroom, Bridge, and Photoshop
      6m 35s
    3. Maximizing compatibility with Photoshop
      4m 7s
    4. Resolving Camera Raw mismatches
      7m 47s
    5. Customizing external editor naming
      3m 54s
    6. Stacking multiple photos
      5m 25s
    7. What to do when Bridge isn't seeing the raw adjustments
      4m 47s
  3. 18m 30s
    1. Setting up an additional external editor
      6m 38s
    2. Should I work with TIFF or PSD files?
      1m 3s
    3. Setting up an export preset
      4m 4s
    4. Integrating Photoshop actions into Lightroom
      6m 45s
  4. 11m 46s
    1. What are catalogs and why do they matter?
      3m 38s
    2. Where are my images?
      4m 2s
    3. The nuts and bolts of catalogs
      1m 52s
    4. Understanding catalogs, collections, and folders
      2m 14s
  5. 15m 22s
    1. Working with folders
      3m 22s
    2. Working with collections
      3m 55s
    3. The collections workflow
      8m 5s
  6. 16m 5s
    1. Exporting and importing catalogs
      7m 52s
    2. Diagramming multiple catalogs and computers
      2m 10s
    3. When to use multiple catalogs on one computer
      3m 40s
    4. Cleaning up the catalog mess
      2m 23s
  7. 10m 55s
    1. Catalog backup defaults
      4m 7s
    2. Performing a better catalog backup
      3m 45s
    3. Restoring from a backup catalog
      1m 27s
    4. Optimizing catalogs
      1m 36s
  8. 12m 24s
    1. Hard drive options
      9m 50s
    2. Further resources
      2m 34s
  9. 9m 46s
    1. Setting up tethered capture
      3m 12s
    2. Custom tethered capture white balance
      6m 34s
  10. 43m 38s
    1. Enhancing eyes
      8m 59s
    2. Whitening teeth
      2m 51s
    3. Smoothing skin
      6m 45s
    4. Reducing small blemishes
      6m 56s
    5. Darkening or dodging with the Adjustment brush
      2m 29s
    6. Adding dimensions and contrast
      4m 53s
    7. Retouching workflow with Photoshop and Lightroom, pt. 1: Reducing blemishes
      7m 10s
    8. Retouching workflow with Photoshop and Lightroom, pt. 2: Smoothing skin
      3m 35s
  11. 21m 42s
    1. Understanding color space and preventing color profile mismatch
      3m 29s
    2. Monitor calibration with ColorMunki
      1m 5s
    3. Working with ColorChecker Passport
      59s
    4. Creating and exporting a ColorChecker Passport profile
      5m 44s
    5. Choosing and applying a profile
      6m 42s
    6. Saving a profile as a preset
      3m 43s
  12. 19m 0s
    1. Are your prints too dark?
      5m 47s
    2. Monitor brightness presets
      3m 4s
    3. Custom grid layouts
      3m 38s
    4. Importing and exporting custom presets
      2m 31s
    5. Exporting from Lightroom to Pictage
      4m 0s
  13. 20m 19s
    1. Designing a custom watermark in Photoshop
      7m 0s
    2. Implementing a custom watermark
      3m 54s
    3. Using a custom watermark for effect in a slideshow
      5m 54s
    4. Using a custom watermark for effect in a web gallery
      3m 31s
  14. 15m 28s
    1. Exporting images for a Blurb photo book
      6m 45s
    2. Downloading and installing Blurb BookSmart
      44s
    3. Building and designing a Blurb book
      7m 59s
  15. 17m 26s
    1. Publishing to the iPhone or iPad
      8m 45s
    2. Publishing to Facebook
      2m 24s
    3. Publishing to Flickr
      3m 19s
    4. Publishing to SmugMug
      2m 58s
  16. 17m 31s
    1. Web galleries and web hosting
      2m 52s
    2. Creating and uploading a gallery
      6m 29s
    3. Popular web gallery plug-ins
      3m 10s
    4. Installing and uploading a web gallery plug-in
      5m 0s
  17. 25m 44s
    1. Exporting to burn on DVD or Blu-ray
      5m 33s
    2. Exporting to a blog
      9m 16s
    3. Exporting for the web
      3m 26s
    4. Exporting and posting a slideshow or video
      4m 34s
    5. Creating a Lightroom screensaver
      2m 55s
  18. 10m 10s
    1. Creating a client web gallery template
      4m 1s
    2. Sending high-resolution images via FTP
      6m 9s
  19. 10m 23s
    1. Emailing images from Lightroom
      5m 31s
    2. Emailing images from Lightroom with Gmail
      4m 52s
  20. 11m 59s
    1. Installing plug-ins
      6m 17s
    2. Accessing plug-ins
      3m 10s
    3. Creative plug-in resources
      2m 32s
  21. 45m 6s
    1. General navigation shortcuts
      6m 21s
    2. Importing shortcuts
      5m 49s
    3. Library module shortcuts
      8m 15s
    4. Develop module shortcuts, pt. 1
      4m 42s
    5. Develop module shortcuts, pt. 2
      4m 29s
    6. Develop module shortcuts, pt. 3
      5m 24s
    7. Develop module shortcuts, pt. 4
      3m 39s
    8. Develop module shortcuts, pt. 5
      5m 11s
    9. Shortcut resources
      1m 16s
  22. 6m 13s
    1. General tips
      2m 28s
    2. Increasing the cache size for greater speed
      3m 45s
  23. 55s
    1. Goodbye
      55s

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