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Assign Profile and Convert to Profile

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As I have mentioned in the last movie, it looks like you can choose color settings out of the Edit menu and change the current RGB and CMYK settings for the current document. This document that's open right now, but you really can't. These values only change the future documents that you create. So I am going to cancel out of there. Instead if you want to change the default RGB and CMYK settings for a document, you have to use either Assign Profile or Convert to Profile down here at the bottom of the Edit menu. Let's look at each of those in turn. Assign Profiles lets you tag your document with a different set of RGB and CMYK profiles. For example, I could change my RGB to something else other than SRGB or I could change my CMYK profile for this document from Web Coated to maybe Sheetfed Coated. I could even discard the profile of RGB or CMYK entirely although it is very, very rare that you would ever want to do that. Now assigning a new working space profile is like saying the colors in this document now mean something different because cyan now looks like this and magenta now looks like this and so on. That is why when you assign a different profile, the colors that you see on screen will almost certainly change, even though the numbers behind the colors, the definitions of the colors will not change.

Assign Profile and Convert to Profile

As I have mentioned in the last movie, it looks like you can choose color settings out of the Edit menu and change the current RGB and CMYK settings for the current document. This document that's open right now, but you really can't. These values only change the future documents that you create. So I am going to cancel out of there. Instead if you want to change the default RGB and CMYK settings for a document, you have to use either Assign Profile or Convert to Profile down here at the bottom of the Edit menu. Let's look at each of those in turn. Assign Profiles lets you tag your document with a different set of RGB and CMYK profiles. For example, I could change my RGB to something else other than SRGB or I could change my CMYK profile for this document from Web Coated to maybe Sheetfed Coated. I could even discard the profile of RGB or CMYK entirely although it is very, very rare that you would ever want to do that. Now assigning a new working space profile is like saying the colors in this document now mean something different because cyan now looks like this and magenta now looks like this and so on. That is why when you assign a different profile, the colors that you see on screen will almost certainly change, even though the numbers behind the colors, the definitions of the colors will not change.

You can see this pretty easily with a Preview check box. I will move this out of the way and I will turn on the Preview check box and you can see that all the colors in the document changed just a little bit. If we choose a different CMYK profile, something really different like newspaper, then you can see they change a lot. Let us see a before and after with the Preview check box off. That is the way it used to look. With the Preview check box on, you can see they really change. I have actually changed the meaning of cyan, magenta, yellow, red, green, blue and so on and so even though the numbers are the same to make up those colors, they look different on screen.

I am going to cancel out of this and show you Convert to Profile. Edit > Convert to Profile, here we go. Now Convert to Profile is actually the opposite of Assign Profile. It converts all the colors it can in your document to match the specs in the New Profile and it tries to maintain the look of you colors, not the definitions. That is, it will change the numbers in order to make them look as close as it can to the original. Let's move this out of the way and I will show you what I mean. With the Preview check box turned on, I am going to change the CMYK profile to something different, let's say Sheetfed Coated. You can see that the colors changed maybe a hair but not that much, But if we look in the Swatches panel, you can see that some things changed a lot. What was all at 100% cyan is now 97% cyan and 2% yellow. All of these CMYK numbers changed because it was trying to match the color in this new CMYK profile. You obviously need to be really careful when choosing Convert to Profile. It can totally mess up your documents.

Now on the other hand, Convert to Profile is pretty useful for finding out which RGB and CMYK profiles are currently assigned to this document. In fact, if somebody sends me a document, I will often open the Convert to Profile dialog box just to find out what RGB and CMYK profiles are assigned to that document. It is really the only good way for me to figure that out. Then I cancel out of it and if I needed to change it for some reason, I would probably use the Assign Profile feature instead. Now in the next movie, we will take a look at how you can import RGB images into InDesign and why that's not a bad idea at all.

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InDesign CS4 Beyond the Basics

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  1. 2m 11s
    1. Welcome
      1m 3s
    2. Using the exercise files
      1m 8s
  2. 25m 16s
    1. Reviewing Control panel shortcuts
      8m 34s
    2. Managing panels
      6m 14s
    3. Letting InDesign do the math
      2m 52s
    4. Using Selection tool clicks
      1m 39s
    5. Using Quick Apply shortcuts
      3m 2s
    6. Setting up context shortcuts
      2m 55s
  3. 23m 51s
    1. Using column guides
      3m 42s
    2. Formatting and positioning guides
      5m 15s
    3. Setting first baseline options
      5m 30s
    4. Using the Document grid
      3m 13s
    5. Setting bleeds
      3m 3s
    6. Using slugs
      3m 8s
  4. 48m 2s
    1. Shuffling pages (or not)
      2m 47s
    2. Scaling objects to a specific size
      2m 32s
    3. Aligning objects to a page
      4m 41s
    4. Using advanced libraries
      4m 5s
    5. Using advanced anchored objects
      11m 21s
    6. Setting non-printing objects
      3m 10s
    7. Creating notes
      5m 23s
    8. Using Data Merge
      10m 41s
    9. Creating templates
      3m 22s
  5. 39m 32s
    1. Creating polygons and starbursts
      2m 35s
    2. Setting custom stroke styles
      5m 15s
    3. Using advanced effects
      8m 46s
    4. Making masks in InDesign
      4m 10s
    5. Integrating InDesign and Illustrator
      4m 59s
    6. Setting compound paths
      5m 4s
    7. Using advanced clipping paths
      6m 6s
    8. Using advanced image transparency
      2m 37s
  6. 55m 26s
    1. Using advanced text formatting
      5m 37s
    2. Using other languages
      4m 22s
    3. Setting advanced paragraph numbering
      3m 12s
    4. Using GREP to find/change
      6m 54s
    5. Managing glyphs
      5m 6s
    6. Finding and changing glyphs
      2m 39s
    7. Adding footnotes
      7m 57s
    8. Creating outlines
      3m 39s
    9. Setting conditional text
      9m 16s
    10. Creating cross-references
      6m 44s
  7. 33m 3s
    1. Advanced text importing
      7m 49s
    2. Using Apply Next Style
      5m 4s
    3. Advanced text styling
      6m 9s
    4. Setting load styles
      2m 58s
    5. Linking to text files on disk
      4m 1s
    6. Understanding GREP styles
      7m 2s
  8. 1h 4m
    1. Building a multi-document book
      4m 42s
    2. Setting page numbering across books
      7m 53s
    3. Setting chapter numbering
      6m 7s
    4. Using the Section Marker feature
      6m 53s
    5. Creating "Continued On..." numbers
      4m 44s
    6. Synchronizing documents in a book
      5m 41s
    7. Creating a table of contents
      11m 24s
    8. Indexing documents
      7m 24s
    9. Generating an index
      6m 47s
    10. Printing or exporting a book
      3m 10s
  9. 46m 4s
    1. Creating hyperlinks
      12m 53s
    2. Setting bookmarks
      6m 7s
    3. Creating buttons
      11m 16s
    4. Making movies
      8m 24s
    5. Creating sounds
      4m 51s
    6. Setting page transitions
      2m 33s
  10. 25m 59s
    1. Setting up swatch and style defaults
      3m 24s
    2. Using mixed ink colors
      6m 16s
    3. Working with duotones
      4m 23s
    4. Overprinting
      2m 10s
    5. Ink aliasing
      4m 50s
    6. Using the Kuler panel
      4m 56s
  11. 50m 27s
    1. Creating the transparency blend space
      4m 6s
    2. Understanding InDesign color settings
      9m 8s
    3. Assign Profile and Convert to Profile
      3m 26s
    4. Working with RGB images
      7m 54s
    5. Working with CMYK images
      6m 28s
    6. Soft-proofing
      5m 18s
    7. Managing color at print time
      7m 25s
    8. Managing color in a PDF export
      6m 42s
  12. 42m 1s
    1. Embedding preflight profiles
      5m 1s
    2. Using the Transparency Flattener preview
      3m 23s
    3. Reviewing Transparency Flattener settings
      6m 30s
    4. Setting print presets
      3m 35s
    5. Setting PDF presets
      3m 21s
    6. Exporting to XHTML
      7m 42s
    7. Exporting to SWF
      6m 45s
    8. Exporting to XFL
      5m 44s
  13. 25m 58s
    1. Understanding XML and InDesign
      6m 51s
    2. Structuring InDesign content
      4m 17s
    3. Importing XML
      6m 57s
    4. Exporting to XML
      7m 53s
  14. 34s
    1. Goodbye
      34s

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