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Placing Illustrator files into InDesign layouts


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Illustrator Insider Training: Seeing Through Transparency

with Mordy Golding

Video: Placing Illustrator files into InDesign layouts

If your workflow includes working with Illustrator and also InDesign and you're taking artwork from Illustrator and you are placing it into InDesign, the file format of choice should be using a native Illustrator file. In other words, don't save your file as an EPS file, but save it as a native Illustrator file. And the reason why is because a native Illustrator file contains unflattened transparency or what we like to call live transparency. Now InDesign has the ability to process files with transparency and then when you print out of InDesign, you can then flatten your file at that later stage.
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  1. 7m 4s
    1. Welcome
      1m 6s
    2. The history of vector transparency
      4m 2s
    3. Getting the most out of this training
      1m 30s
    4. Using the exercise files
      26s
  2. 6m 21s
    1. Transparency living in a world of PostScript
      2m 56s
    2. Transparency...it's everywhere
      2m 13s
    3. Transparency across Adobe applications
      1m 12s
  3. 42m 20s
    1. Deconstructing the Transparency panel
      7m 48s
    2. Adding transparency to gradients
      4m 59s
    3. Using the Isolate Blending setting
      5m 20s
    4. Understanding how overprints and knockouts work
      6m 26s
    5. Using the Knockout Group setting
      6m 47s
    6. Using the Knockout Group setting without a group
      6m 2s
    7. Understanding the Opacity & Mask Define Knockout Shape setting
      4m 58s
  4. 36m 26s
    1. What is an opacity mask?
      3m 37s
    2. Learning from channels in Photoshop
      7m 20s
    3. Creating an opacity mask
      6m 44s
    4. Editing an opacity mask
      5m 31s
    5. Using a gradient as an opacity mask
      4m 44s
    6. Using image pixels as an opacity mask
      4m 4s
    7. Using a complex appearance as an opacity mask
      4m 26s
  5. 53m 30s
    1. Understanding transparency flattening
      5m 58s
    2. Learning the two rules of flattening
      8m 1s
    3. Understanding the concept of complex regions
      7m 47s
    4. Exploring the Transparency Flattener options
      11m 44s
    5. The relationship between flattening and stacking order
      8m 22s
    6. Using the Flattener Preview panel
      8m 3s
    7. Creating and sharing flattener presets
      3m 35s
  6. 24m 37s
    1. Working with PostScript (EPS) files
      7m 22s
    2. Placing Illustrator files into InDesign layouts
      3m 59s
    3. Copying graphics from Illustrator
      2m 41s
    4. Saving PDF files
      4m 41s
    5. Using the PDF/X standards
      4m 36s
    6. Printing files from Illustrator
      1m 18s
  7. 34s
    1. Next steps
      34s

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Watch the Online Video Course Illustrator Insider Training: Seeing Through Transparency
2h 50m Intermediate May 10, 2011

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In this installment of Illustrator Insider Training, Mordy Golding shows experienced Illustrator users how to create transparency effects and ensure reliable printing results. This course reviews the history of vector transparency and covers features such as knockout groups, opacity masks, and transparency flattening. Mordy also shows how to establish a safe workflow when placing Illustrator graphics containing transparency in PostScript, PDF, and InDesign files. A free worksheet is included with the course.

Topics include:
  • Understanding how transparency works across the Adobe applications
  • Deconstructing the Transparency panel
  • Adding transparency to gradients
  • Understanding how overprints and knockouts work
  • Using a gradient or complex appearance as an opacity mask
  • The rules of transparency flattening
  • Working with complex regions
  • Understanding the relationship between flattening and stacking order
  • Creating and sharing flattener presets
  • Saving PDF files and using the PDF/X standards
Subject:
Design
Software:
Illustrator
Author:
Mordy Golding

Placing Illustrator files into InDesign layouts

If your workflow includes working with Illustrator and also InDesign and you're taking artwork from Illustrator and you are placing it into InDesign, the file format of choice should be using a native Illustrator file. In other words, don't save your file as an EPS file, but save it as a native Illustrator file. And the reason why is because a native Illustrator file contains unflattened transparency or what we like to call live transparency. Now InDesign has the ability to process files with transparency and then when you print out of InDesign, you can then flatten your file at that later stage.

In fact, the preferred workflow whenever you're working with transparency is to delay that flattening process as late as possible in the workflow. So by taking native live information from Illustrator and bringing it into InDesign, you were keeping that transparency in an unflattened state, until you need to print it later on from InDesign. Let's exactly see how that works. In my exercise Files here in Chapter 5, I have a file here called floral.ai and floral.eps. They are the exact same image.

However, they have been saved both as an Illustrator file and also as an EPS file using that High Resolution flattener setting. Now I am going to switch over here to InDesign for a moment and what I am going to do is I am going to create a new document. We don't need Facing Pages here. I am just going to click OK, take the default settings, and I am going to use my regular Rectangle tool here to draw some kind of a colored background. I want to see what's going to happen when I place this artwork onto a colored background. Then I'll choose maybe just yellow as the solid color there. It's nice and bright. Now I'll deselect that artwork. I have nothing selected right now.

I'll choose File > Place and inside of that chapter 05 folder in my Exercise Files, I will place this file called floral.ai, but I'll also hold down the Shift key and choose the floral.eps file. In InDesign, you can actually place multiple files at once. So I am going to choose Open and I am going to click once over here and click once over here. I don't want to click in the yellow area because I don't want InDesign to think that I want to place this art into that yellow frame. So I now have two pieces of artwork and what I am going to do is I am going to turn on the High-Quality Preview setting.

I am just going to right-click on any blank area on my screen. I am going to choose Display Performance and choose High Quality Display. That's going to display my Illustrator artwork inside of InDesign, the same way as I would see if I were back inside of Illustrator. Now take a look over here, if I kind of drag both these elements here onto the artboard. You can see that even though I had this on the background here, and I'll press W to activate the Preview setting and hide my frames, that the EPS version which is the version that's down here. that one has a white background here, whereas this one which is the native Illustrator file has the drop shadow blend beautifully into the yellow background.

The reason why that happens is because again in the native Illustrator file, I havea live transparency. That drop shadow has not been rasterized yet into a flattened state, whereas here in this case in EPS that now has just a rectangular white background inside of that file. So there is no way for me to kind of have this image here blend into any kind of a nice background. Whereas in InDesign, I can now have this drop shadow kind of blend into any background that I choose. And again the main thing here is that I've delayed that flattening process.

I've brought files from Illustrator into InDesign without invoking that flattening process. So what does this mean? It means when I now print out of InDesign, I could choose a flattener setting and that will determine how this artwork inside the Illustrator file gets flattened as well. Taking this a step further, if I were to actually now create a PDF out of InDesign, I could create a PDF that does not contain any flattened transparency inside of it, meaning transfer this live transparency even one further step in the workflow, so that I don't flatten it until I actually get to Acrobat.

We'll talk more about PDF files a little bit later in this chapter, but it's important to realize that if you're working with InDesign, it's always going to be more beneficial for you to save your files out of Illustrator in the native AI format, instead of using EPS.

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