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Using roundtrip editing between Dreamweaver and Fireworks

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Video: Using roundtrip editing between Dreamweaver and Fireworks

Wait a minute. This isn't Fireworks. That's right. We are going to talk a little about the relationship between Fireworks and Dreamweaver in this lesson. These two applications have always had great integration and one of the areas where this is most evident is through round trip editing. Now round trip editing is really handy if you're working with HTML prototypes, the kind of thing we were doing in previous lessons, where we were exporting out HTML images. What you end up with is an HTML page, like we see onscreen here. It is consisting entirely of a table-based layout with graphics. When we are dealing the prototype stage, there's a good chance you are going to get feedback from the client that says they'd like a couple changes, that they would like to see how things look if you move stuff around, for example.

Using roundtrip editing between Dreamweaver and Fireworks

Wait a minute. This isn't Fireworks. That's right. We are going to talk a little about the relationship between Fireworks and Dreamweaver in this lesson. These two applications have always had great integration and one of the areas where this is most evident is through round trip editing. Now round trip editing is really handy if you're working with HTML prototypes, the kind of thing we were doing in previous lessons, where we were exporting out HTML images. What you end up with is an HTML page, like we see onscreen here. It is consisting entirely of a table-based layout with graphics. When we are dealing the prototype stage, there's a good chance you are going to get feedback from the client that says they'd like a couple changes, that they would like to see how things look if you move stuff around, for example.

So we are going to say that the client has asked couple of questions here. They wanted to see what the main logo looks like if it's within the main body of the page, rather than overlapping like we see here. And they'd also like us to reposition the cycle logo a little bit, and also provide a little more space between the body text here for the Tour Spotlight and the actual hyperlink. So we're going to make those changes. And we are going to do an all starting inside of Dreamweaver. So I am going to select my table from the tag selector and you'll see inside of the Properties panel, we have a link to the original source file.

Now the source file is also currently sitting inside of my site definition, which makes it little easier to actually access the file. If I click on Edit, Fireworks will boot up, and it'll actually load the mockup file, and there it is, and you'll see in the upper-left corner, a slight change in the usual Fireworks interface. We see Editing from Dreamweaver, and a Done button. So we are not actually going to be saving the file manually. We are going to let Fireworks take care of this work for us. So I am going to reposition myself here a little bit, and I am going to hide my Slices first, select my logo, and I am going to reposition it a little bit, using the Shift key and the arrow keys to move it down slightly, and then just the arrow key itself to tweak it a little bit.

So it's running in line with our top of our Web page, and then I am going to turn my Slices back on again. And it's really important that I reset the location of the slice as well. And it's probably a good idea to zoom in, to make sure I'm accurate there. So just a couple more pixels, there we go, so that one is all set up. I'll zoom back out again. And we are going to go down to the cycle logo and do the same kind of thing here. Now I am going to use a slightly different tool for this. I am going to go ahead and select these Select Behind tool, and what that allows me to do is, first of all, select the Slice, and if I hold down the Shift key, I can select the image underneath.

So now I've got both objects selected, and I can just, again, use the Shift key and press the down arrow, now let's go four times, something like that, and also I want to reposition this Tour Details information. So I am going to grab my Pointer tool again, double-click inside my text area, press the Enter key to give myself a little bit more space, and I think, also, I am going to reposition that text as well. You'll notice how it's overlapping one of these redlines.

These are what are called slice guides. This basically tells me how Fireworks is going to divide up this file, this design, into an HTML document. So I think I want to keep the Tour Details in one location, rather than split it over two slices. It's currently aligned over to the right-hand side, so I'll change the alignment over to the left, and then I'll just use my Tab key to sort of position things over. Now we are dealing with a graphical layout here, so doing things like tabbing stuff around is not a big deal. I'll reposition my Hotspot as well, so it falls inside the same area, and that's pretty good.

So all we need to do once those changes are made is click on the Done button, and Fireworks will save the file, and we just hop back over to Dreamweaver, and when we are brought back to Dreamweaver, we take a look at the design, and you'll see these changes have been made. My cycle logo has been dropped down a little bit, my Tour Details has been shifted over - along with the hot spot, and my logos has been brought down as well. So it's a great way to make changes to a prototype if the client has request to see an update. You can do it right from Dreamweaver.

You can also start off, obviously, in Fireworks to make the changes and re-export the HTML, but we're dealing with a single page here, so it was pretty easy to do just in this route along this manner. Now one other thing we are going to take a look at here is Images. Now one of the other advantages to this round trip is you're working with the original PNG file, and that means, basically, that you're not recompressing the images over and over and over again, when they're being saved, you are always going back to the original PNG, unlike saving a JPEG multiple times and constantly reducing the image quality.

So I've got this image here though, and I do want to make a change to this as well. I think we are going make a slight adjustment here. We can do this in a couple different ways, again, even though we have a specific image selected, I can right-click on the image, and I can choose Edit With, and I have an option here to Edit with Fireworks. Now if I go this route, Fireworks will reopen the original PNG file for me, and I can go back and make changes to that specific image, just like I was doing earlier, so I could, for example, hide my slice and just add an effect.

I am going to change the color here. I'll Colorize this, and it looks not too bad maybe, just tone it down a little bit, there we go, and click OK, and then once again, click Done. Now the third option for editing, and that's just to select an image and then click on the Edit icon inside the Properties panel, and that, again, if Fireworks can find the original PNG file, it'll launch the PNG file for me to do my editing.

So round trip editing can be really helpful if you're working with an HTML prototype like we have here, makes it really quick and easy to effect changes based on the client's feedback.

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Fireworks CS5 Essential Training

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  1. 3m 42s
    1. Welcome
      1m 22s
    2. What is Fireworks?
      1m 59s
    3. Using the exercise files
      21s
  2. 1h 27m
    1. Creating and opening documents
      7m 36s
    2. Understanding the interface
      9m 43s
    3. Working with tabbed documents
      6m 18s
    4. Setting up rulers, guides, and grids
      10m 7s
    5. Using tooltips and Smart Guides
      5m 40s
    6. Working with panels
      9m 29s
    7. Working with pages
      8m 59s
    8. Working with layers
      13m 13s
    9. Working with states
      4m 35s
    10. Using the Properties panel
      4m 38s
    11. Using the Preferences panel
      7m 34s
  3. 52m 39s
    1. Understanding the Fireworks PNG format
      2m 11s
    2. Saving and exporting files
      5m 11s
    3. Importing files
      5m 34s
    4. Opening Photoshop files
      6m 7s
    5. Opening Illustrator files
      3m 58s
    6. Exporting a single file
      9m 57s
    7. Using the Image Preview window
      1m 52s
    8. Using the Export Area tool
      3m 10s
    9. Creating PDF files
      4m 16s
    10. Saving Photoshop files
      5m 48s
    11. Using Fireworks files for Illustrator
      4m 35s
  4. 1h 2m
    1. Understanding bitmaps
      1m 32s
    2. Resizing images
      3m 48s
    3. Using the selection tools
      8m 0s
    4. Using the drawing tools
      8m 19s
    5. Retouching with the corrective tools: Rubber Stamp
      12m 16s
    6. Using the bitmap effects tools: Blur, Sharpen, and Replace Color
      7m 33s
    7. Using more bitmap effects tools: Dodge and Burn
      7m 1s
    8. Improving images using the Levels filter
      8m 15s
    9. Creating a bitmap mask with a selection
      6m 2s
  5. 1h 10m
    1. Looking at the vector toolset
      6m 53s
    2. Using the Pen tool
      7m 32s
    3. Editing vector shapes with the Freeform and Reshape Area tools
      4m 35s
    4. Filling shapes with patterns and live filters
      3m 17s
    5. Using Auto Shapes
      7m 24s
    6. Using shapes as image elements
      4m 16s
    7. Scaling shapes
      5m 28s
    8. Masking objects with vector shapes
      7m 13s
    9. Applying strokes
      5m 52s
    10. Using Vector Path and Path Scrubber
      6m 9s
    11. Using the Compound Shape tool
      7m 40s
    12. Using Snap to Pixel
      2m 15s
    13. Using Gradient Dither
      1m 46s
  6. 51m 18s
    1. Understanding symbols
      5m 41s
    2. Creating graphic symbols
      13m 11s
    3. Creating button symbols
      10m 22s
    4. Creating animation symbols
      5m 4s
    5. Sharing symbols with the Common Library
      1m 37s
    6. Editing the instance of a symbol
      3m 46s
    7. Adding component symbols to a design
      8m 46s
    8. Exporting and importing symbols
      2m 51s
  7. 17m 34s
    1. Creating GIF animations
      9m 31s
    2. Animating with Twist and Fade
      3m 47s
    3. Creating a tweened animation
      4m 16s
  8. 26m 46s
    1. Using text in Fireworks
      7m 19s
    2. Understanding text properties
      3m 14s
    3. Adding text in a path
      4m 43s
    4. Adding text to a path
      4m 31s
    5. Using text as a mask
      3m 35s
    6. Maintaining crisp text in web images
      3m 24s
  9. 28m 35s
    1. Having fun with filters
      8m 44s
    2. Working with Styles
      4m 10s
    3. Using Blend Modes
      4m 40s
    4. Converting bitmap selections to paths
      3m 50s
    5. Working with Adobe Swatch Exchange files
      2m 33s
    6. Using the Kuler panel for color inspiration
      4m 38s
  10. 1h 14m
    1. Understanding the web toolset
      1m 51s
    2. Creating hotspots
      6m 22s
    3. Using the Slice tool
      8m 57s
    4. Using a master page
      5m 20s
    5. Sharing layers across pages
      4m 49s
    6. Sharing web layers across pages
      3m 30s
    7. Using HTML component symbols
      3m 15s
    8. Creating choices and showing design options to clients
      7m 7s
    9. Importing pages
      2m 47s
    10. Previewing the mockup
      4m 17s
    11. Using HTML prototyping
      5m 22s
    12. Improving the workflow
      20m 30s
  11. 33m 19s
    1. Optimizing images for export, part 1
      15m 36s
    2. Optimizing images for export, part 2
      13m 36s
    3. Generating a CSS-based layout
      4m 7s
  12. 22m 20s
    1. Integrating Fireworks, FXG, and Flash Catalyst
      3m 56s
    2. Integrating Fireworks and Flash
      3m 46s
    3. Using roundtrip editing between Dreamweaver and Fireworks
      5m 52s
    4. Copying and pasting objects to Dreamweaver
      2m 57s
    5. Integrating Fireworks and Device Central
      4m 13s
    6. Working with Bridge
      1m 36s
  13. 13s
    1. Goodbye
      13s

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