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Robbie Carman: So Rich, lots of cool things about this camera, but there are some downsides as well, and I think for me, the biggest downside was also one of the biggest upsides Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: Is the actual form factor itself. I love how small and compact this is, and especially since it uses Micro 4 3rd lenses, which are in themselves Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: Very small and compact, I can put it in a small bag, my pocket, and take it around, but when it comes to hand holding it, and getting it steady, and making nice cinematic type shots, it is a challenge because of the form factor.
Rich Harrington: Well yeah, I mean like I'm holding it out there now. It's like oh it's so small, it's light weight. It's shaking. Robbie Carman: Yeah. Rich Harrington: I mean you, you do need to use camera support. The good new is, we've got a threat mount on the top and the bottom. Robbie Carman: Yep. Rich Harrington: So, besides a tripod, monopods are going to work. Robbie Carman: Yep. Rich Harrington: You can hang this camera. Robbie Carman: You can get a little, they're making now specific cages for the pocket camera. So you can get handles and cage with more mounting points on top of a cheese plate, or something like that. So I mean, I think if you, you're adapt it, it's not that big of a problem, but just be aware, like other small size cameras. And we've done episodes on this, about camera support and camera rigs.
You're going to have to think about the same types of things with this pocket camera. Rich Harrington: It's pretty much like trying to hand hold a lightweight DLSR. Robbie Carman: Yeah. Rich Harrington: There's just not enough heft. Robbie Carman: And something like this where I could have, you know, a little more balance in it, a little more, you know, more, more points of contact, is really going to pay dividends in getting nice shots. Rich Harrington: Yeah, now the other thing that's a drawback is just how much power this thing draws. Like, you turn the camera on and like, you go do something and you come back, like, oh, 80%. And then like, you do a couple of shots, like, oh, 60%. Robbie Carman: Yeah, I mean, the thing is, unlike the, the bigger cousins, this one actually has a swappable battery on it and I'd suggest getting quite a few of those.
Rich Harrington: Yes. Robbie Carman: But I think mainly because it's doing some pretty intense processing, the Pro res processing, the compressed raw processing. That's going to eat up power. And the, the one thing that drives me crazy related to power is just a firmware issue. On the back of the battery the camera, meter goes 100, 75, 50, 25 dead. Rich Harrington: Okay, so that explains why I just like wait a minute, it was just Robbie Carman: And that's, that's frustrating when you're going to use it in a, a situation where you need to get optimal, optimal shooting, that there's no, I would like it to go, count everything between zero and 100.
Rich Harrington: Well at least give me 5% increments. Robbie Carman: Right, or at least give me a beep or some sort of warning. You have one minute left, two minutes left on the battery. And this is a problematic issue with the bigger camera as well. But you know, we have our 12 volt power supply that we can just plug in. Rich Harrington: Yeah, yeah. Robbie Carman: And so a lot of people are making additional little, battery packs and that kind of stuff that are going to be smaller form factor that will work with this. And in an environment like the studio, I would suggest plugging in, Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: Not running it off battery when you don't need to. Rich Harrington: Yeah, now, the batteries the good news is, is that, this is a fairly standard battery type.
I believe it's actually based on a Nikon form factor battery. Robbie Carman: Yeah, yeah. Rich Harrington: I just went to Amazon.com and did I search; I was able to pick up third party batteries, really affordable. Robbie Carman: Yep. Rich Harrington: I picked up the typical Wasabi power ones. Robbie Carman: Mm-hm. Rich Harrington: They work within the camera, will charge in camera. You can get an external charger. The camera itself comes with one battery. And let's be honest, if you have to charge the battery only in the camera, you're kind of hosed. So you're going to pick up an external charger anyways. Robbie Carman: Yeah. Rich Harrington: These have worked fine, but I picked up 12 batteries. I've got four cameras. It takes longer to charge the battery than it does to drain the battery Robbie Carman: Right, right, right.
Rich Harrington: Which is why you want at least two batteries per camera besides the one that it ships with. Otherwise, it's pretty hard to shoot. Robbie Carman: Yeah, and I would say the other things I have problematic, you know, problems with this camera, I'm, I'm hoping are addressable with software or firmware. For example, I can only choose preset white balance instead of doing a manual white balance. And Rich, we've talked about this a lot before, the importance of light balancing for success Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: In post production, right? So I'm hoping that would come. the, also, there's some other minor little things about this. Rich Harrington: Well, here's on that I don't consider minor. Robbie Carman: No? Rich Harrington: I, I, I consider it an oversight.
You cannot format a memory card in this camera. Robbie Carman: Oh, that's a big one. That's a big one. Rich Harrington: Like, you fill up a memory card, it's full. You know, if you go on set, you need to have your memory cards pre-wiped, and it prefers, I believe Mac formatting. Robbie Carman: Yeah, and just like the batteries, it's not going to tell you how much time you have left on the card. Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: So you're shooting an interview, and the person's about to say something amazingly important, oops, card's full, sorry. Rich Harrington: Zero warning, yeah. Robbie Carman: Yeah. Rich Harrington: So this is just one of those cameras where you sort of have to be like, I don't know. Zen, Lucy, just be like oh yeah it's okay.
You know, you may, you're going to have a whole list of excuses as to why you had to break that. Oh did you hear that truck? Robbie Carman: Yeah, and, and I think that it's one of those things that you have to keep in mind. And I'm not cutting a break for Black Magic, I mean, 'because they're Rich Harrington: Yeah. Robbie Carman: They've been making hardware for a long time, right. But they are new to the camera business. And some of these things that seem, well Rich Harrington: You didn't need a battery meter on a card for a computer. Robbie Carman: Right. I mean, a lot of these things that seem obvious to production folks that are, like, oh my God, these are grave sins, how could you forget these things? I'm hoping, again, are fixed in firmware. And again, it's their, sort of their you know, version one try at a lot of these cameras.
And that hopefully, in the future, they'll be remedied. Rich Harrington: All right, well, we've got an idea with what's going on here. When we come back, we're going to start to shoot with the camera and talk a little bit about workflow, and then we'll take a look at the results of the footage.
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