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Round-tripping a soundtrack from Premiere Pro to Audition and back again

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As well as sending individual pieces of audio from Premiere Pro to Audition automatically, you can also send an entire sequence or part of a sequence so it'll arrive as a mix ready for you to finish inside of Audition. I've got some clips here. This is a very, very simple sequence with just a very short dialog section and some intro audio. And if you Just have a listen to the beginning. It's a bit loud. (NOISE) Pretty normal. Microphones are pretty sensitive to that kind of audio, and if I just Zoom In a little bit with the plus key on my keyboard here, at the top of my keyboard.

Round-tripping a soundtrack from Premiere Pro to Audition and back again

As well as sending individual pieces of audio from Premiere Pro to Audition automatically, you can also send an entire sequence or part of a sequence so it'll arrive as a mix ready for you to finish inside of Audition. I've got some clips here. This is a very, very simple sequence with just a very short dialog section and some intro audio. And if you Just have a listen to the beginning. It's a bit loud. (NOISE) Pretty normal. Microphones are pretty sensitive to that kind of audio, and if I just Zoom In a little bit with the plus key on my keyboard here, at the top of my keyboard.

I'm just going to pull the level down a little bit here. So, there we go. Just so it's a little bi quieter at the start. (audio playing) Perhaps too quite and then we've got some dialog. >> because you're trying to control the elements on your body. >> Okay, so let's say that I've made some very basic adjustments to this sequence in Premier Pro, but, it's absolutely my intention that once I've got picture lock, and I know that picture lock where you're not going to change your content, it's, it's increasingly mythical but let's say you've reached a point where you don't intend to make any changes to the contents of your program, and you're now at the phase where you're going to apply special effects, graphics, and you're going to finish off your audio.

At that stage, you can go to the Edit menu and you can choose Edit in Adobe Audition and Sequence. And I don't have a clip selected, so I'm just going to send this sequence. This is going to give me a pretty straightforward set of options. I'm going to choose a name for the New, multi-track mix I'm going to create. So let's call this, our dialog. It doesn't really matter right now. And then we're going to browse to where this is going to go. So I'm going to put this in the Audition folder of assets that we're working with here.

And I'm going to make a new folder. And let's call this. Film mix. Let's put it in there. And then, what are we going to send? Are we going to send the whole sequence, or just the selected work area? Are we going to have audio handles? Now, audio handles simply means that, if I've only used a part of an audio clip in my sequence, do I want Premiere Pro to send a bit more than the bit that was used, to give us a little bit of overlap so that we can make trimming adjustments and change the timing of audio edits inside of Audition.

I'm a big believer in these and you might as well make it a high number, because compared to video clips, audio files are absolutely tiny. So, feel free to make these handles pretty long. It's going to be the same amount on either side of the clip. It's just the same as having handles for clips in Premier Pro. To the video for example. When I click OK, Premier Pro is going to generate new copies of these audio files. There's a break if you like, between the original media and the media that Audition is going to work on.

And this is very important because of this meme that Adobe has that is do no harm. Do no harm to the original media that you have to work with. So these handles are relevant because if you don't include them, those new clips just won't have them. They won't have any extra media for you to trim into. Then we've got this option to export preview video, and that's a pretty good idea. When you're working in a multi-track mix in audition, you can use video as a reference. And since we're producing audio to picture here, I think it's a good idea.

It is a big file of course relative to the audio. But you know, it's it's probably a wise choice. And I'll show you how that looks in a moment. If you've got audio effects, do you want those to be rendered into the clips that you're going to generate? So you might have already done some audio work that. That you intend to keep. That's fine, just tick this box. And equally here, Send, Clip, Volume, Key Frame, Metadata. Well that really means, is here, where I've adjusted the level for that waterfall at the beginning of the film, that rubberband adjustment is going to come with the clips into Audition.

It's again, it's a pretty good idea. And then last of all, Open In Adobe Audition. Yep, I think so. That's pretty much the plan. So, I'm going to click OK. This is going to produce a flattened video clip. So, right now, I've just got 1 layer of video, but if I had multiple layers of video, this would all be flattened. It's just like exporting your sequence into a file, And it's going to produce these pieces of audio and hand them over to Audition. And here we go. Now Audition is loading and automatically, there is our sequence. So notice that we've got a video track in our multi track and if I just re size a little bit so you can see it, I've got a video panel. If you don't see that in your version of Audition, just click on the Window menu. And you'll see it down at the bottom of the list as one of the options. Now, I can play through this.

(audio playing) Well I won't worth it playing all the way through because you can get the gist, you can see (NOISE) if I just scroll through a little bit, there's that rubber band adjustment that I made to the clip. It's already been added in inside of Audition, and I'm ready to make some changes. I've even got those Handles, if I need them. Of course, not at the end of this clip, it's the end of the shot. So, let's say now I'm in Audition, I'm going to make some changes. Let's say I'm going to make this a, a wonderful edit.

Let's adjust that. Let's imagine, just humor me, if you like, and imagine that I'm making a really careful mix here. Absolutely wonderful, possibly worthy of an award, I don't know. But let's say I made my adjustments. I've put on some effects. I've created my multi-track mix to picture. And I'm now ready to put this back into Premier pro. I've maybe added some layers of audio. Who knows what adjustments? But I'm ready to send this back to Premier pro. Now, one way to do this would simply be to go to the File menu, and choose Export > Multi-Track Mixdown > Entire Session, and you can just create a Mixdown file.

It's going to be exactly the right length to fit into the timeline in Premiere Pro. So, there's no problem with doing this, and this is a, absolutely a standard way of working. Like producing any other kind of audio in Audition You would just choose your format, go for an uncompressed format, choose a sample rate and so on. But there is a shortcut that was added quite recently to Adobe Audition. If we go to the multitrack menu, there is an export to Adobe, Premier Pro Option. And now if I select that, you see, I've got pretty similar options. But there's a little extra bit of automation included with this. First of all, notice that the file that's going to be created is an XML. This is the markup language that is I suppose very similar to the Final Cut Pro 7 XML format.

XML is being used more and more as a kind of advanced edit decision list for multiple applications. Then we're going to choose a location. And I think inside the Our Dialog folder is probably good enough for me. And here we've got options for what's going to happen to the audio. Now, it's important to note that you're not going to get back each individual clip. Here, for example, you can see I've got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Bits of audio. I'm not going to get five bits of audio when I send this back to Premier Pro. It'd be lovely. It just doesn't do it. I can have each individual track as a stem.

And a stem is one continuous piece of audio that starts at zero and works its way up to the end. And so if you had five tracks with different bits of audio on, you'd have five pieces of audio pretty much exactly the same length. We're going to end up being perfectly matched for synchronization. If I've got buses, I can have those as a Stem, or I can mix down the session to a Mono, Stereo, or 5-1 File. I'm going to choose Stereo file. This is stereo audio, and I'm going to keep the tick in the box to open this in Adobe Premier Pro.

Remember, if I just toggle back, I still have my sequence open in Premier Pro. Okay, so back in Audition, I'm going to click Export. And Audition is exporting those files and then switching me to Premiere Pro and asking me what I want to do with them. See this folder's already been added. This bin is already in my project panel in Premiere Pro. Where do I want this new piece of audio to go? Well, I'm going to just put them into the audio 2 track and I'm going to click okay.

Let's re-size a little bit, an here is my new audio from Audition. If I expand this out you can see, what I've got is, a sequence. If I open this up, you can see that sequence contains our mix down. If I had chosen multiple stems they would all be listed here. Here is the piece of audio I've created. Again, if I had five stems I'd have five bits of audio. An here is my master sequence, if you like, which now has perfectly synchronized audio as output form Audition, as well as the original audio. What I'm going to want to do now, is simply turn off monitoring the original audio, and use the new audio From Audition, as the Soundtrack. Now you can guess right away, there is a problem here, that I can't make individual changes to pieces of audio within this mix. It is just one piece of sound.

But it's still a pretty convenient work flow, if you've got multiple pieces of audio in Premier Pro that you want to really put some fine finishing on inside of Adobe Audition.

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Video Production with Creative Suite 6

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  1. 1m 25s
    1. Welcome
      1m 25s
  2. 14m 1s
    1. Introduction to multi-application post-production
      4m 46s
    2. Dynamic Link vs. round-tripping
      5m 22s
    3. One-way trips and the Edit Original command
      3m 53s
  3. 10m 53s
    1. Improving speech-to-text analysis
      5m 57s
    2. Using breakdown reports
      4m 56s
  4. 13m 16s
    1. Organizing projects with Prelude
      7m 53s
    2. Sharing rough cuts with Premiere Pro
      5m 23s
  5. 21m 10s
    1. Browsing in Bridge
      8m 35s
    2. Batch renaming with Bridge
      7m 26s
    3. Editing metadata with Bridge
      5m 9s
  6. 19m 22s
    1. Preparing images for video in Illustrator
      8m 32s
    2. Using Illustrator files in After Effects
      6m 27s
    3. Using Illustrator files with the Premiere Pro Title tool
      4m 23s
  7. 24m 38s
    1. Preparing images for video in Photoshop
      7m 52s
    2. Working with Photoshop files in After Effects
      10m 11s
    3. Working with Photoshop files in Premiere Pro
      6m 35s
  8. 27m 52s
    1. Creating audio for video with Audition
      11m 45s
    2. Sending work from Premiere Pro to Audition
      6m 32s
    3. Round-tripping a soundtrack from Premiere Pro to Audition and back again
      9m 35s
  9. 31m 19s
    1. Preparing content for Premiere Pro in After Effects
      7m 54s
    2. Preparing content for After Effects in Premiere Pro
      3m 36s
    3. Sending work from Premiere Pro to After Effects
      11m 14s
    4. Sending work from After Effects to Premiere Pro
      8m 35s
  10. 14m 39s
    1. Outputting pregraded shots for the edit from SpeedGrade
      5m 40s
    2. Sending work from Premiere Pro to SpeedGrade
      8m 59s
  11. 7m 31s
    1. Using Dynamic Link to share sequences between Premiere Pro and Encore
      7m 31s
  12. 10m 13s
    1. Sending work from Premiere Pro to the Media Encoder
      7m 12s
    2. Using the Media Encoder to output from After Effects
      3m 1s

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